Havana Bar escapes licence suspension but faces tough conditions

Havana Bar escapes licence suspension but faces tough conditions

Havana Bar escapes licence suspension but faces tough conditions

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A TOWN CENTRE bar has escaped having its licence suspended but will have to follow tough conditions set out by Merseyside Police.

Police had requested temporarily withdrawing the licence of Havana Bar and Restaurant, on Ormskirk Street and for Kambiz Karoonian to be removed as the licence holder.

It followed a series of breaches, including the sale of alcohol to under 18s.

In September 2013 a 15-year-old boy and 15-year-old girl bought booze, while in January 2014 a 17-year-old boy was served after using an expired passport belonging to a boy, aged 12.

During the hearing of St Helens Council's licensing sub committee, Merseyside Police also outlined cases of glasses being taken outside and the loud music being played from external speakers.

Police also outlined how the bar was unable to produce CCTV footage from August last year in which an off-duty doorman had become involved in an assault. Concerns were also raised over the completion of the door supervisor register.

Police alleged licence conditions were "continually ignored" and Mr Karoonian "appeared to have no control of the management of the premises or staff members".

However, David Crank, representing Mr Karoonian, acknowledged there had been failures that did not paint his client in the "best light" but said these were being addressed.

He said: “In relation to the selling of underage alcohol, following the first incident the manager underwent disciplinary proceedings and was dismissed in October.

“In January there was a failure where the staff tried to follow the policy of testing but didn’t do it properly. The staff member was disciplined and issued a financial penalty.

“There has been no underage drinking incidents since January 2014 and training has been in place.

“There is also no practical way of playing music outside now and posters have been placed in the premises stating that no glasses are allowed outside.

“Mr Karoonian has had some personal issues which may have caused him to be not as effective as he would want to be.

“It is a business he is committed to and he will look to make sure it operates correctly.”

However, the committee made the decision to remove Mr Karoonian as the designated premises supervisor and enforce conditions upon the licence.

Mr Karoonian has 21 days to appeal. Councillors had rejected an application by the licensee's legal team for the hearing to be held in private, which would have excluded the Star from proceedings.

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4:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

So what exactly are these "tough new conditions"?

No wonder Jo willmott had a place on this committee.

Do as you please - face no punishment - law and order Labour style.
So what exactly are these "tough new conditions"? No wonder Jo willmott had a place on this committee. Do as you please - face no punishment - law and order Labour style. barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

4:35pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

So exactly what do you have to do to have your licence revoked ? Not as if St Helens is short of places to pour alcohol down your neck so why not make an example of those who feel the law doesn't apply to them or who can't be bothered to obey the conditions of a licence to sell alcohol ?
So exactly what do you have to do to have your licence revoked ? Not as if St Helens is short of places to pour alcohol down your neck so why not make an example of those who feel the law doesn't apply to them or who can't be bothered to obey the conditions of a licence to sell alcohol ? lawman2004
  • Score: 17

8:59am Tue 19 Aug 14

djdexnelson says...

lawman2004 wrote:
So exactly what do you have to do to have your licence revoked ? Not as if St Helens is short of places to pour alcohol down your neck so why not make an example of those who feel the law doesn't apply to them or who can't be bothered to obey the conditions of a licence to sell alcohol ?
seems like the same issues ian pitts and the imperial faced when they lost control and took to beating saints players up! as for the outsidec speakers i beleave that folk enjoyed the music whilst i was on the balcony! plus some folk prefare to have a drink across the road or on the bus home i make sure the security staff are always protected from cctv intrusion the venue and the imperial taught me its best all round.
[quote][p][bold]lawman2004[/bold] wrote: So exactly what do you have to do to have your licence revoked ? Not as if St Helens is short of places to pour alcohol down your neck so why not make an example of those who feel the law doesn't apply to them or who can't be bothered to obey the conditions of a licence to sell alcohol ?[/p][/quote]seems like the same issues ian pitts and the imperial faced when they lost control and took to beating saints players up! as for the outsidec speakers i beleave that folk enjoyed the music whilst i was on the balcony! plus some folk prefare to have a drink across the road or on the bus home i make sure the security staff are always protected from cctv intrusion the venue and the imperial taught me its best all round. djdexnelson
  • Score: -13

4:15pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Terry B says...

There was a time not too long ago when the police controlled licences - it's about time they were given those powers back! I'm sure if the decision had been left to them Havana would be closed - and so it should be as it has a blatant disregard for the law. As long as councils control licences they'll NEVER revoke them because it means a loss of income to them.
There was a time not too long ago when the police controlled licences - it's about time they were given those powers back! I'm sure if the decision had been left to them Havana would be closed - and so it should be as it has a blatant disregard for the law. As long as councils control licences they'll NEVER revoke them because it means a loss of income to them. Terry B
  • Score: 13

6:09pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Keva68 says...

I should imagine councillor willmott may get a few free shots out of this decision.
I should imagine councillor willmott may get a few free shots out of this decision. Keva68
  • Score: 12

1:52pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Hughwithaview says...

There is no question - the licence should have been revoked. Just another example of the double standards practised in this town. Speak one way - act in another.
There is no question - the licence should have been revoked. Just another example of the double standards practised in this town. Speak one way - act in another. Hughwithaview
  • Score: 4

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