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So where’s my right to weekly bin collection?

St Helens Star: So where’s my right to weekly bin collection? So where’s my right to weekly bin collection?

I AM writing this in response to your headline news, “Shake up on the bins”.

This was an article to inform us of proposed fortnightly collections of brown bins and of food waste collections.

Councillor Dave Banks seems to be spearheading the changes and it would seem that bio degradable bags for the food waste collection will be £300,000 alone per year, plus the cost of new wagons, liners and food waste containers for every house.

My advice to Councillor Banks is save the Council or I should say the Council taxpayers, £300,000 plus as the thought of having a container attracting flies and vermin is repulsive.

We have a brown bin, a green bin, a black bin, a bag for newspapers and magazines, a bag for plastic bottles and now a proposed “slop bin”.

Councillor Banks says “rubbish is now a resource with a value, sometimes quite a high value”. Could Councillor Banks please enlighten us as to what value is waste food? Just imagine a housing estate with every house having a slop bin and all the smell and flies and vermin.

Maybe it will be on the same footing as the Vista Road tip, with the residents putting up with smells and swarms of flies. They certainly didn’t want the tip with all the associated smells and flies,and even our MP. Dave Watts campaigned against it.

To quote Eric Pickles, the communities secretary: “Every Englishman has a right to a weekly bin collection just as he has a right to enjoy chicken Marsala on a Saturday night.”

Where is my right to a weekly bin collection and to use a phrase which came to light a few years ago... N.I.M.B.Y.

Not in my back yard, not a slop bucket anyway.

Mr G.Woodward, Bradlegh Road, Newton-le-Willows

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9:39am Thu 17 Jan 13

pitbullboxing says...

You don't have rights - you have Rimmer.
You don't have rights - you have Rimmer. pitbullboxing
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11:13am Thu 17 Jan 13

plister says...

I would like to say that I think the counil should be making more people recycle as I know there are some areas that don't get this service befor bringing in another system. I would also say that I think the food recycling shouldn't be happing in this day and age. Far too many people waste food.
I would like to say that I think the counil should be making more people recycle as I know there are some areas that don't get this service befor bringing in another system. I would also say that I think the food recycling shouldn't be happing in this day and age. Far too many people waste food. plister
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11:26am Thu 17 Jan 13

cbol82 says...

The food waste collection or "slop bin" as you call it would not attract flies/vermin anymore than a brown bin would. The reason that food waste collections would be introduced is so that your food waste doesn't have to sit in your brown bin for 2 weeks waiting for a collection. What would you rather have, food sat in your brown bin for 2 weeks or a weekly food waste collection? I know which I'd prefer. If you take part in all the proposed WEEKLY recycling services, including food waste, what would be left for your brown bin that would warrant a weekly collection?
The food waste collection or "slop bin" as you call it would not attract flies/vermin anymore than a brown bin would. The reason that food waste collections would be introduced is so that your food waste doesn't have to sit in your brown bin for 2 weeks waiting for a collection. What would you rather have, food sat in your brown bin for 2 weeks or a weekly food waste collection? I know which I'd prefer. If you take part in all the proposed WEEKLY recycling services, including food waste, what would be left for your brown bin that would warrant a weekly collection? cbol82
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6:08pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Kronen says...

How on earth do the council expect us to support their new idea of recycling. They are cutting existing services like Sutton leisure and can't even collect recycling every 2 weeks - guess its going into the normal waste again after me taking the time to sort it and put it out for collection.
How on earth do the council expect us to support their new idea of recycling. They are cutting existing services like Sutton leisure and can't even collect recycling every 2 weeks - guess its going into the normal waste again after me taking the time to sort it and put it out for collection. Kronen
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8:38pm Thu 17 Jan 13

rosered1 says...

It would be far easier to think positively about schemes like these if they werent trying to be enforced by a cash strapped council who freely admit that it will have to spend an awful lot of money to get this up and running. Maybe cutting their cloth accordingly should be part of the council motto.
It would be far easier to think positively about schemes like these if they werent trying to be enforced by a cash strapped council who freely admit that it will have to spend an awful lot of money to get this up and running. Maybe cutting their cloth accordingly should be part of the council motto. rosered1
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10:43pm Thu 17 Jan 13

Fififlowerpot says...

They do need to sort their existing collections out before they start adding more! My mum is regularly missed on recycling collections as are a few others I know of, whether it be green, pink, blue or black, there's issues that need sorting now before asking people start making room for more recycling bags n boxes!
They do need to sort their existing collections out before they start adding more! My mum is regularly missed on recycling collections as are a few others I know of, whether it be green, pink, blue or black, there's issues that need sorting now before asking people start making room for more recycling bags n boxes! Fififlowerpot
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11:26pm Thu 17 Jan 13

eddyspan says...

Have you people nothing better to do than sort waste for the system? What benefit do you see? Do prices come down? Is the air fresher? If this stuff is so valuable they can employ people to sort it.

Also buy food then eat it. Don't throw it in the bin.Am I missing something here?
Have you people nothing better to do than sort waste for the system? What benefit do you see? Do prices come down? Is the air fresher? If this stuff is so valuable they can employ people to sort it. Also buy food then eat it. Don't throw it in the bin.Am I missing something here? eddyspan
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11:34pm Thu 17 Jan 13

eddyspan says...

On a lighter note Eric Pickles should be avoiding curry. The fat tory pig
On a lighter note Eric Pickles should be avoiding curry. The fat tory pig eddyspan
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8:24am Fri 18 Jan 13

smith&weston says...

Today it is snowing, not a lot, not even an inch. I very much doubt my brown bin will be emptied today and with the knock on effect, probably find that various recycling items will be left uncollected next week. Yet here we are, talking about another bin and a reduction in collections. May I thank the labour voters of St Helens for this shambles. YOU keep putting these people back in to our town hall.
Today it is snowing, not a lot, not even an inch. I very much doubt my brown bin will be emptied today and with the knock on effect, probably find that various recycling items will be left uncollected next week. Yet here we are, talking about another bin and a reduction in collections. May I thank the labour voters of St Helens for this shambles. YOU keep putting these people back in to our town hall. smith&weston
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10:03am Fri 18 Jan 13

karlos1975 says...

Well despite the snow our recycling has been collected as normal today (thanks Acumen). We have a composter in our back garden for food / garden waste, failing that it goes in the green bin along with the cardboard and is always collected as normal, so I don't see any need for a separate food waste collection as well (we don't waste much food anyway - only buy what we need now). What I would like to see is the plastics collection extended to include plastic carrier bags and things like plastic egg boxes etc, as these can be also be recycled.
Well despite the snow our recycling has been collected as normal today (thanks Acumen). We have a composter in our back garden for food / garden waste, failing that it goes in the green bin along with the cardboard and is always collected as normal, so I don't see any need for a separate food waste collection as well (we don't waste much food anyway - only buy what we need now). What I would like to see is the plastics collection extended to include plastic carrier bags and things like plastic egg boxes etc, as these can be also be recycled. karlos1975
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3:24pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Kronen says...

@eddyspan ............. be fair, pigs eventually have their uses. Thanks for cheering me up though :)
@eddyspan ............. be fair, pigs eventually have their uses. Thanks for cheering me up though :) Kronen
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3:40pm Fri 18 Jan 13

mikeperry109 says...

Am I right in thinking that Pickles was offering extra cash to councils who maintained or introduced a weekly brown bin collection? If so, perhaps the idiots that run our Town Hall could explain why they are refusing this cash and spending£300,000 on this new "service". But then again, they are closing Sutton baths against the wishes of the people, so why should they bother to explain this latest act of lunacy to the people who pay their wages!
Am I right in thinking that Pickles was offering extra cash to councils who maintained or introduced a weekly brown bin collection? If so, perhaps the idiots that run our Town Hall could explain why they are refusing this cash and spending£300,000 on this new "service". But then again, they are closing Sutton baths against the wishes of the people, so why should they bother to explain this latest act of lunacy to the people who pay their wages! mikeperry109
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4:27pm Fri 18 Jan 13

smith&weston says...

mikeperry109 wrote:
Am I right in thinking that Pickles was offering extra cash to councils who maintained or introduced a weekly brown bin collection? If so, perhaps the idiots that run our Town Hall could explain why they are refusing this cash and spending£300,000 on this new "service". But then again, they are closing Sutton baths against the wishes of the people, so why should they bother to explain this latest act of lunacy to the people who pay their wages!
It's dirty tainted Tory money in the eyes of Labour controlled St Helens council so in order to stick two fingers up, they have refused it. The people don't want it they proclaim.... well nobody asked me. Did anybody ask you ?
[quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking that Pickles was offering extra cash to councils who maintained or introduced a weekly brown bin collection? If so, perhaps the idiots that run our Town Hall could explain why they are refusing this cash and spending£300,000 on this new "service". But then again, they are closing Sutton baths against the wishes of the people, so why should they bother to explain this latest act of lunacy to the people who pay their wages![/p][/quote]It's dirty tainted Tory money in the eyes of Labour controlled St Helens council so in order to stick two fingers up, they have refused it. The people don't want it they proclaim.... well nobody asked me. Did anybody ask you ? smith&weston
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6:40pm Fri 18 Jan 13

keepitreel says...

the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.
the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra. keepitreel
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7:02pm Fri 18 Jan 13

smith&weston says...

keepitreel wrote:
the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.
Spot on.....
[quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.[/p][/quote]Spot on..... smith&weston
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2:21pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Bill Bradbury says...

smith&weston wrote:
keepitreel wrote: the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.
Spot on.....
I thought I read in the Star this week the Council is freezing the Council Tax. So explain your news that they are not?
[quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.[/p][/quote]Spot on.....[/p][/quote]I thought I read in the Star this week the Council is freezing the Council Tax. So explain your news that they are not? Bill Bradbury
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2:26pm Sun 20 Jan 13

mikeperry109 says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
smith&weston wrote:
keepitreel wrote: the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.
Spot on.....
I thought I read in the Star this week the Council is freezing the Council Tax. So explain your news that they are not?
I think it was last year's council tax that smith and weston was talking about, Bill - not certain, though. What about the thrust of this letter?
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: the same money was offered to freeze the council tax and RIMMER refused that also,saying "it is not in the peoples interest" what she meant was it wasnt in her interest to have to say the goverment had helped this town out as this goes against her mantra.[/p][/quote]Spot on.....[/p][/quote]I thought I read in the Star this week the Council is freezing the Council Tax. So explain your news that they are not?[/p][/quote]I think it was last year's council tax that smith and weston was talking about, Bill - not certain, though. What about the thrust of this letter? mikeperry109
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5:59pm Sun 20 Jan 13

chasmcn says...

smith&weston wrote:
mikeperry109 wrote:
Am I right in thinking that Pickles was offering extra cash to councils who maintained or introduced a weekly brown bin collection? If so, perhaps the idiots that run our Town Hall could explain why they are refusing this cash and spending£300,000 on this new "service". But then again, they are closing Sutton baths against the wishes of the people, so why should they bother to explain this latest act of lunacy to the people who pay their wages!
It's dirty tainted Tory money in the eyes of Labour controlled St Helens council so in order to stick two fingers up, they have refused it. The people don't want it they proclaim.... well nobody asked me. Did anybody ask you ?
Its dirty tainted Tory money that even Tory run councils don't want to accept it

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/politics
/8932664/Councils-ig
noring-Eric-Pickles-
cash-for-weekly-rubb
ish-collections.html
[quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking that Pickles was offering extra cash to councils who maintained or introduced a weekly brown bin collection? If so, perhaps the idiots that run our Town Hall could explain why they are refusing this cash and spending£300,000 on this new "service". But then again, they are closing Sutton baths against the wishes of the people, so why should they bother to explain this latest act of lunacy to the people who pay their wages![/p][/quote]It's dirty tainted Tory money in the eyes of Labour controlled St Helens council so in order to stick two fingers up, they have refused it. The people don't want it they proclaim.... well nobody asked me. Did anybody ask you ?[/p][/quote]Its dirty tainted Tory money that even Tory run councils don't want to accept it http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/politics /8932664/Councils-ig noring-Eric-Pickles- cash-for-weekly-rubb ish-collections.html chasmcn
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6:25pm Sun 20 Jan 13

smith&weston says...

The old freezing the council tax ploy...
However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.
The old freezing the council tax ploy... However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness. smith&weston
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6:41pm Sun 20 Jan 13

chasmcn says...

smith&weston wrote:
The old freezing the council tax ploy...
However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.
Yes and your beloved Tory party is cutting the police and now we have to pay for a commissioner too on top of it so expect a rise don't go blaming the council for it
[quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: The old freezing the council tax ploy... However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.[/p][/quote]Yes and your beloved Tory party is cutting the police and now we have to pay for a commissioner too on top of it so expect a rise don't go blaming the council for it chasmcn
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6:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13

chasmcn says...

OOOPs forgot the great bus deregulation as well who invented that ???? yep the Tories we all paying for a worst service now brill idea, lets not talk about rail privatisation
OOOPs forgot the great bus deregulation as well who invented that ???? yep the Tories we all paying for a worst service now brill idea, lets not talk about rail privatisation chasmcn
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9:37pm Sun 20 Jan 13

saintsfan says...

chasmcn wrote:
smith&weston wrote:
The old freezing the council tax ploy...
However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.
Yes and your beloved Tory party is cutting the police and now we have to pay for a commissioner too on top of it so expect a rise don't go blaming the council for it
The police are a public service just like the council and the armed forces and so have to take their share of the pain that would not have been felt but for the irresponsibility of the previous Labour government. And incidentally, its a COALITION in power, not a Tory government. You have no idea which bits belong to which aspect of the government in a coalition so stop being so silly. Finally, the police are on a Very Good Thing (working at present with a former DI, recently retired, and finding out just what a good deal the police have been on). It is up to each public sector body to manage the cuts responsibly. And don't forget, there have been NO cuts in funding to the NHS, to the education sector or to the provison of services for older people. However, that latter point doesn't stop Wigan Council, for example, closing all the day centres for elderly people. Nor does it stop Rimmer doing just what the Labour council did in Thatcher's day and turning down available money/protection purely to make a political point. However, dumb Labour voters in this town keep voting her and her crew back in again so I guess Labour voters get what they deserve. Alas, those of us who didn't vote them back in have to suffer as well.
[quote][p][bold]chasmcn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: The old freezing the council tax ploy... However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.[/p][/quote]Yes and your beloved Tory party is cutting the police and now we have to pay for a commissioner too on top of it so expect a rise don't go blaming the council for it[/p][/quote]The police are a public service just like the council and the armed forces and so have to take their share of the pain that would not have been felt but for the irresponsibility of the previous Labour government. And incidentally, its a COALITION in power, not a Tory government. You have no idea which bits belong to which aspect of the government in a coalition so stop being so silly. Finally, the police are on a Very Good Thing (working at present with a former DI, recently retired, and finding out just what a good deal the police have been on). It is up to each public sector body to manage the cuts responsibly. And don't forget, there have been NO cuts in funding to the NHS, to the education sector or to the provison of services for older people. However, that latter point doesn't stop Wigan Council, for example, closing all the day centres for elderly people. Nor does it stop Rimmer doing just what the Labour council did in Thatcher's day and turning down available money/protection purely to make a political point. However, dumb Labour voters in this town keep voting her and her crew back in again so I guess Labour voters get what they deserve. Alas, those of us who didn't vote them back in have to suffer as well. saintsfan
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11:02pm Sun 20 Jan 13

chasmcn says...

saintsfan wrote:
chasmcn wrote:
smith&weston wrote:
The old freezing the council tax ploy...
However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.
Yes and your beloved Tory party is cutting the police and now we have to pay for a commissioner too on top of it so expect a rise don't go blaming the council for it
The police are a public service just like the council and the armed forces and so have to take their share of the pain that would not have been felt but for the irresponsibility of the previous Labour government. And incidentally, its a COALITION in power, not a Tory government. You have no idea which bits belong to which aspect of the government in a coalition so stop being so silly. Finally, the police are on a Very Good Thing (working at present with a former DI, recently retired, and finding out just what a good deal the police have been on). It is up to each public sector body to manage the cuts responsibly. And don't forget, there have been NO cuts in funding to the NHS, to the education sector or to the provison of services for older people. However, that latter point doesn't stop Wigan Council, for example, closing all the day centres for elderly people. Nor does it stop Rimmer doing just what the Labour council did in Thatcher's day and turning down available money/protection purely to make a political point. However, dumb Labour voters in this town keep voting her and her crew back in again so I guess Labour voters get what they deserve. Alas, those of us who didn't vote them back in have to suffer as well.
Your a coalition lover we now have to pay for a police commissioner plus their staff which means a increase in council tax or it stays the same so we have a reduction in police numbers personally i didn't vote as i don't agree with system the torys/libdems have introduced .

"Police pay" it was the tories that introduced the police pay that we have today and used them as a tool against people defending their jobs i remember being on the picket line telling the police your day will come when they turn on you. That day has arrived

mmm the coaltion have not cut the NHS funny the Chairman of Statistics Authority dont agree with you or Cameron or Clegg even any of the Cabinet that repeatedly say there are no cuts to the NHS.

http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/politics
/9722661/David-Camer
on-ordered-to-stop-s
aying-NHS-spending-i
s-up.html

Education no cuts well i would rather believe the Institute for Fiscal Studies that says over the next 4yrs from 2010 to 2014 spending on education will drop by 14% to the level of the 1950's

Dumb Tory voters believe that a Tory govt will look after you ,if your not a millionaire we are not in this all together or are you getting a £107,000 tax cut in April.
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chasmcn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: The old freezing the council tax ploy... However, the levy collected on behalf of the Parish council will increase ( any one know what they do ) which is added to our council tax bills. We also have what ever extra the Police, the Fire Brigade and the Merseyside Travel lot demand so smoke and mirrors really. I particularly object to the out stretched hand of the travel wallahs. Surely the buses, trains and ferries should earn what they need, not be subsidised. They even ask for money towards the Mersey tunnels so as to keep employing people to collect tolls and run a totally pointless private police force. Madness.[/p][/quote]Yes and your beloved Tory party is cutting the police and now we have to pay for a commissioner too on top of it so expect a rise don't go blaming the council for it[/p][/quote]The police are a public service just like the council and the armed forces and so have to take their share of the pain that would not have been felt but for the irresponsibility of the previous Labour government. And incidentally, its a COALITION in power, not a Tory government. You have no idea which bits belong to which aspect of the government in a coalition so stop being so silly. Finally, the police are on a Very Good Thing (working at present with a former DI, recently retired, and finding out just what a good deal the police have been on). It is up to each public sector body to manage the cuts responsibly. And don't forget, there have been NO cuts in funding to the NHS, to the education sector or to the provison of services for older people. However, that latter point doesn't stop Wigan Council, for example, closing all the day centres for elderly people. Nor does it stop Rimmer doing just what the Labour council did in Thatcher's day and turning down available money/protection purely to make a political point. However, dumb Labour voters in this town keep voting her and her crew back in again so I guess Labour voters get what they deserve. Alas, those of us who didn't vote them back in have to suffer as well.[/p][/quote]Your a coalition lover we now have to pay for a police commissioner plus their staff which means a increase in council tax or it stays the same so we have a reduction in police numbers personally i didn't vote as i don't agree with system the torys/libdems have introduced . "Police pay" it was the tories that introduced the police pay that we have today and used them as a tool against people defending their jobs i remember being on the picket line telling the police your day will come when they turn on you. That day has arrived mmm the coaltion have not cut the NHS funny the Chairman of Statistics Authority dont agree with you or Cameron or Clegg even any of the Cabinet that repeatedly say there are no cuts to the NHS. http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/politics /9722661/David-Camer on-ordered-to-stop-s aying-NHS-spending-i s-up.html Education no cuts well i would rather believe the Institute for Fiscal Studies that says over the next 4yrs from 2010 to 2014 spending on education will drop by 14% to the level of the 1950's Dumb Tory voters believe that a Tory govt will look after you ,if your not a millionaire we are not in this all together or are you getting a £107,000 tax cut in April. chasmcn
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9:11am Mon 21 Jan 13

pitbullboxing says...

Hey here's Ed saying he wont reverse any of the cuts , and will introduce even more cuts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-politics-20
017215
Hey here's Ed saying he wont reverse any of the cuts , and will introduce even more cuts. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-20 017215 pitbullboxing
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11:24am Fri 1 Feb 13

WolfieSmith says...

chasmcn wrote:
OOOPs forgot the great bus deregulation as well who invented that ???? yep the Tories we all paying for a worst service now brill idea, lets not talk about rail privatisation
I'm a Socialist thinker, pray tell me when that alleged, socialist government run by that Liar Tony Blair's New Labour re-nationalised everything the Tories privatised and de-regulated because to be honest I must've missed it. You New Labour supporters really are MUPPETS. While I'm at it, try telling me they're Labour and I'll prove you a liar like Blair!
[quote][p][bold]chasmcn[/bold] wrote: OOOPs forgot the great bus deregulation as well who invented that ???? yep the Tories we all paying for a worst service now brill idea, lets not talk about rail privatisation[/p][/quote]I'm a Socialist thinker, pray tell me when that alleged, socialist government run by that Liar Tony Blair's New Labour re-nationalised everything the Tories privatised and de-regulated because to be honest I must've missed it. You New Labour supporters really are MUPPETS. While I'm at it, try telling me they're Labour and I'll prove you a liar like Blair! WolfieSmith
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