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We must save the Black Horse in Moss Bank

St Helens Star: We must save the Black Horse We must save the Black Horse

SO yet another piece of local history is set to disappear. This time a pub in Moss Bank that can be dated back to the 18th Century!

Why is our local council so set on eradicating from our town any building with any history attached to it? This town is now unrecognisable from the town I grew up in. Every building of any note, with one or two exceptions, has been demolished in the name of progress leaving us with a town full of early 70's designs which are well past their sell by date, and a town with no heart.

One of the biggest acts of vandalism must be the demolishing of all the streets, houses and shops in what became St Thomas's Square. Houses and shops where people lived and worked in close communities, knew their neighbours, and could walk into town to do their shopping.

And for what? An estate that became a haven for crime and drug taking and is now demolished itself, the site being left derelict for years and years. What an eyesore! What a welcome to St Helens!

Now back to The Black Horse. After reading in the current Star about the number of people opposed to this development, and the locals who are trying to get together to block this plan, I turned over the page only to read an article about St Helens Councils Masterplan for the regeneration and development of the borough over the next 15 years.

It reads, and I quote, "Its policies will be used to assess planning applications, preventing poor quality development and protect St Helens "most important features"". According to Council Leader Marie Rimmer, "We have a plan that reflects the needs and aspirations of the people of the borough.”

Isn't it about time our council started listening to the people and what they want, and stopped allowing the destruction of our heritage by developers?

Terry Broughton, Prescot Road

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9:41am Thu 6 Dec 12

Chris Lamb says...

Terry, Im part of the group trying to save the Black Horse too. It may seem a little odd but the Core Strategy may actually help us with our objections on certain points such as improving health and focussing on communities being an argument for saving the Bowling Green which is also part of the plans. I was quite negative about the Core Strategy initially but a lot of councils don't have one which means quite often they don't have a leg to stand on when objections come in to similar applications. It also talks about increasing jobs which is another reason to save the Black Horse.

What sometimes seems a negative can be turned into a positive.

We're still hopeful.

Best regards

Chris
Terry, Im part of the group trying to save the Black Horse too. It may seem a little odd but the Core Strategy may actually help us with our objections on certain points such as improving health and focussing on communities being an argument for saving the Bowling Green which is also part of the plans. I was quite negative about the Core Strategy initially but a lot of councils don't have one which means quite often they don't have a leg to stand on when objections come in to similar applications. It also talks about increasing jobs which is another reason to save the Black Horse. What sometimes seems a negative can be turned into a positive. We're still hopeful. Best regards Chris Chris Lamb
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7:17pm Thu 6 Dec 12

i5tola says...

If half the people in and around St Helens benefited from this, then it could be considered. But just for the benefit of just fifteen families then I feel that the community should have a closer look at it. The word luxury was mentioned so there could be considerable money behind all of this.
If half the people in and around St Helens benefited from this, then it could be considered. But just for the benefit of just fifteen families then I feel that the community should have a closer look at it. The word luxury was mentioned so there could be considerable money behind all of this. i5tola
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2:08pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Terry B says...

I take your point Chris, and I sincerely hope you're able to use the core strategy to your advantage but based on all the council past performance I find it hard to believe that the leopard will change its spots!
Only this week according to the Reporter there 1500 empty houses in the borough. With that many empty properties available why do we keep getting new developments all over the borough, unless its to make money of course!
I take your point Chris, and I sincerely hope you're able to use the core strategy to your advantage but based on all the council past performance I find it hard to believe that the leopard will change its spots! Only this week according to the Reporter there 1500 empty houses in the borough. With that many empty properties available why do we keep getting new developments all over the borough, unless its to make money of course! Terry B
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3:17pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Chris Lamb says...

Exactly right Terry, We need to use these arguments to object. There was an interesting article about them rejecting planning for the car park on Glyn Webb/MegaMart on the grounds of increased disruption and safety to traffic. This is certainly an area we're looking at too.

Its great that so many people in the town are supporting this objection.

The Black Horse is at the heart of our community.

We need to keep it if possible.
Exactly right Terry, We need to use these arguments to object. There was an interesting article about them rejecting planning for the car park on Glyn Webb/MegaMart on the grounds of increased disruption and safety to traffic. This is certainly an area we're looking at too. Its great that so many people in the town are supporting this objection. The Black Horse is at the heart of our community. We need to keep it if possible. Chris Lamb
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9:52pm Fri 7 Dec 12

Paul Lynch says...

Dear Terry,

As I've posted on the other related article

I'd be happy to talk about your ( and anyone else's) concerns with the private planning application currently before the council Planning committee.

My email is cllrplynch@sthelens.
gov.uk

Regards

Paul
Dear Terry, As I've posted on the other related article I'd be happy to talk about your ( and anyone else's) concerns with the private planning application currently before the council Planning committee. My email is cllrplynch@sthelens. gov.uk Regards Paul Paul Lynch
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