Residents’ anger at waste plans for former Ravenhead site (From St Helens Star)

Residents of St Helens maybe interested to know that a Facebook page has been set up to keep local residents informed.

https://www.facebook
.com/SayNoToRavenhea
dWasteProposals

The lack of public knowledge over these TWO proposed waste plants is frightening and we feel the developers are trying to keep their proposals under wraps to sneak it through.

How can Ravenhead Road deal with an extra 170 HGV lorries a day? 170 HGVs. How?

WE NEED YOUR HELP to object to these plans or St Helens will become the waste dump of the North West.

Nice to see residents went along with objection posters before hearing all the facts.

PM - if you took the time to read the actual article you will discover that the residents went along to protest against plans for a waste site proposed by Organic Waste Management whose planning application has been with the Council for some time - so we thought that we had already 'heard all the facts'. To our amazement and disgust the consultation that actually took place was with regard to proposals for yet ANOTHER waste plant on the same site from a company called Tamar Energy. I take it that you are a representative of one of these waste companies and not a resident of St. Helens? I say this, because other than the creation of a measly 30 jobs, there are no benefits whatsoever for our town from these proposals.

We've since learned the 'public consultation' for the waste plant to be built by Organic Waste Management (St Helens) Ltd was back in February 2012. So 'public' in fact that most residents of The Shires estate were completely unaware of the event and so did not attend.
I would invite PM to enlighten me with the reasons why this waste plant should go ahead?
It serves no purpose other than to damage the health and quality of life for residents of St Helens.
I'm also really interested as to why Organic Waste Management (St Helens) Ltd - have changed their business name 3 times since 2005?
Have they something to hide?

After recieveing a leaflet yesterday from our ward councillors stating they are objecting to the plans on our behalf, i trust this company will have a fight on their hands. appaerently one ward councillor cant get involved direct as she is on planning comittee as stated in the leaflet. For people who arnt aware if a councillor on planning was to get to involved then they may lose their vote when it came to it, so maybe thats why they have kept it hush. Also why Mr Beirne is getting involved is beyond me, ha he has no impact on anything in the council, even when he was a councillor he did nothing but put leaflets of himself through our doors showing tipped rubbish the guys a joke, retired from politics yeah right, whats he doing he lives in parr ... bought a local pub in pemberton lol and took his mother local shopping to Manchester as stated in tv apperance the weakest link. sorry but the show says it all, john you are the weakest link GOODBYE.........

TURK - thanks for your support - I think? I'm no great fan of Councillors (current or ex) but to be honest if it weren't for John Beirne most of us (on the Shires at least) would have no idea about any of this. As far as I am aware, current councillors only became involved yesterday - 6 months after the original planning application had gone in. But let's not criticise each other or any of those who oppose these ridiculous plans. If we stick together we can stop it happening. Like the facebook page https://www.facebook
.com/SayNoToRavenhea
dWasteProposals and then follow the link there to St. Helens Planning and Public Acces Page to put words into action and submit an objection. Thanks.

Yes full support to the cause given, just ask yourself what does ex councillor Beirne get from this? Do you think he cares? my guess is that his former Party messed up And to stop him being beaten in this years election in may he stood down. Now it looks like he is going to make a come back in the next elections as independant so will jump on any issue to get his face in the local papers, ha the guy is a joke, if only people knew what they were stood next too in that photo. truth will out one day Mr Beirne..........he knows exactly what i mean.

TURK__182 wrote:
After recieveing a leaflet yesterday from our ward councillors stating they are objecting to the plans on our behalf, i trust this company will have a fight on their hands. appaerently one ward councillor cant get involved direct as she is on planning comittee as stated in the leaflet. For people who arnt aware if a councillor on planning was to get to involved then they may lose their vote when it came to it, so maybe thats why they have kept it hush. Also why Mr Beirne is getting involved is beyond me, ha he has no impact on anything in the council, even when he was a councillor he did nothing but put leaflets of himself through our doors showing tipped rubbish the guys a joke, retired from politics yeah right, whats he doing he lives in parr ... bought a local pub in pemberton lol and took his mother local shopping to Manchester as stated in tv apperance the weakest link. sorry but the show says it all, john you are the weakest link GOODBYE.........

The ward councillor who has said that they can't get involved directly because they are on the planning committee is wrong and misinformed.
It used to be the case that Councillors involved on planning committees couldn't get involved but predetermination of planning applications was scrapped earlier this year in 2012. Read this for more information. http://www.localism-
agenda.com/2012/01/a
bolishing-predetermi
nation-what-it-reall
y-
means/

i have had to change my name after being banned from this site after telling the truth regardind certain people and the dream,trhe only benifit from a scheme like this would be if we the people of ST HELENS had the energy this plant created supplied to us at a very low rate,but to site anything like this near homes is a non-starter,there is plenty of land adjacent to the east lancs that the additionan traffic would be less of a problem.

Anthony Wilson has exposed the councillor who is a member of the planning committee as either lying or misinformed. Either way, he or she needs to get their act together. This proposal in ridiculous in terms of health risks and traffic increase. Anyone who drives down Ravenhead Road (including the fly-tippers) knows how bad it is now.

SoozieQ wrote:
Residents of St Helens maybe interested to know that a Facebook page has been set up to keep local residents informed.

https://www.facebook

.com/SayNoToRavenhea

dWasteProposals

The lack of public knowledge over these TWO proposed waste plants is frightening and we feel the developers are trying to keep their proposals under wraps to sneak it through.

How can Ravenhead Road deal with an extra 170 HGV lorries a day? 170 HGVs. How?

WE NEED YOUR HELP to object to these plans or St Helens will become the waste dump of the North West.

You have my wholehearted support SoozieQ. Will have a look at your Facebook page.

keepitreel wrote:
i have had to change my name after being banned from this site after telling the truth regardind certain people and the dream,trhe only benifit from a scheme like this would be if we the people of ST HELENS had the energy this plant created supplied to us at a very low rate,but to site anything like this near homes is a non-starter,there is plenty of land adjacent to the east lancs that the additionan traffic would be less of a problem.

Its quite simple mistery man. Instead of SPOUTING about issues and COMMENTING about something, get involved in a cause and DO something for once. Here is a fantastic opportunity for you. Stick your head above the pavement for a change and join our protest.

I believe that the site in question falls within the Town Centre Ward. The three councillors are Almond, Gill and Willmitt.
Willmitt sits on the planning committee, but her first duty is to the people she represents - the people who are to have their lives blighted by this ridiculous proposal. Get them to a public meeting and make sure that they are prepared to oppose the plans, even if the Labour Group support them.

We all want houses to be built on 'Brown Field' Sites rather than the Green Belt. This was the case with The Shires(built on old Pilk's land). Unfortunately this also leaves the opportunity for other industrial uses such as this being built nearby.
Local residents who want to fight this need to fight these proposals by speaking in one voice by forming a Committee,get as much information from other similar sites nationally and Worldwide(and any health risks already identified).
Don't attend any public consultation meetings set up by the Company,they will use this to get their application through at the Planning Committee,by saying they have consulted you.
Also I note you have a Facebook page set up,don't put too much of your information and objections on this because the developer will monitor this site and address your concerns when the put the application in.What I am basically saying is keep 'your powder dry' and hit them with all your concerns in one voice at the Planning Application Stage.
We did all this to stop an Opencast Coal Site in Garswood becoming a Landfill Site.
It was amazing to see ordinary residents who had done their homework take on take on a Company and their highly paid QC and win at the Public Enquiry,that we managed to get when the initial application had been passed by Wigan Council.
Good Luck,get organised and don't trust anyone in Authority if you want to win and please don't put too much of your information into the public domain too soon!

this is a problem for ALL residents of ST HELENS and we all should be fighting this proposal,we keep banging on about the state of the town centre and lack of investment who in their right mind would invest in a town that has this type of facility slap bang in the heart of it.we all use the roads in and around the town so what effect will this added traffic have on our daily lives,everyone should be phoning their council representatives and demanding they reject this at all cost,we put them there they answer to us.

PM says...
4:08pm Thu 13 Sep 12

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So P/M ,why no reply ?..outnumbered and outgunned AGAIN

jimstevo wrote:
We all want houses to be built on 'Brown Field' Sites rather than the Green Belt. This was the case with The Shires(built on old Pilk's land). Unfortunately this also leaves the opportunity for other industrial uses such as this being built nearby.
Local residents who want to fight this need to fight these proposals by speaking in one voice by forming a Committee,get as much information from other similar sites nationally and Worldwide(and any health risks already identified).
Don't attend any public consultation meetings set up by the Company,they will use this to get their application through at the Planning Committee,by saying they have consulted you.
Also I note you have a Facebook page set up,don't put too much of your information and objections on this because the developer will monitor this site and address your concerns when the put the application in.What I am basically saying is keep 'your powder dry' and hit them with all your concerns in one voice at the Planning Application Stage.
We did all this to stop an Opencast Coal Site in Garswood becoming a Landfill Site.
It was amazing to see ordinary residents who had done their homework take on take on a Company and their highly paid QC and win at the Public Enquiry,that we managed to get when the initial application had been passed by Wigan Council.
Good Luck,get organised and don't trust anyone in Authority if you want to win and please don't put too much of your information into the public domain too soon!

Great post JS - we all need to get behind them. Your advice will be invaluable.

Good luck with this. The people of Sutton had the problem with an infestation of flies this year due to a local recycling plant. The flies were everywhere and got into everything if you opened your doors and windows. It was a nightmare when the weather was hot.