Miracle survivor Martin Lloyd hit with bill for East Lancs closure

St Helens Star: Martin Lloyd says the bills from St Helens Council feel like a kick in the teeth. Martin Lloyd says the bills from St Helens Council feel like a kick in the teeth.

A BMX rider who miraculously survived a horror crash on the East Lancs Road has been billed £240 by St Helens Council for closure and repair of the highway.

Martin Lloyd was flung headlong into the road after his bike collided with a car on the busy dual carriageway.

He broke 20 bones, was in an induced coma for eight days and, as the Star reported in November, doctors were amazed he had the strength to pull through.

Now the unemployed father-of-one says he has suffered a kick in the teeth after the St Helens Council financial penalty landed on his doormat.

It is to cover the costs of closing a section of the Liverpool-bound carriageway at the Carr Mill junction in the aftermath of the crash on Sunday, September 26.

Martin, 20, told the Star: “If I had died what would they have done – sent a bill to my mum, my dad, or my auntie?

“They wouldn’t, they would have left it. Now, they think oh he’s had a bit of a rough time, but he’s okay now.

“I‘ve had three letters and they have said if I can’t afford to pay they will take me to court.

“I’m disgusted to be honest, I didn’t ask for any of this. When I was in hospital they didn’t expect me to recover. Now I’m being hit with this.

“I’ve viewed the CCTV and obviously it was my fault. But it was an accident I didn’t mean for it to happen.”

If it was not for the swiftness of air ambulance crews arriving at the scene and getting him to hospital, Martin would have died.

When he awoke from the coma day doctors and nurses said: “You shouldn’t even be here. You’re very lucky.”

He spent five weeks in hospital after five and has continued to undergo treatment since then.

His catalogue of injuries included a fractured skull, broken ribs, collarbone and shattered right leg.

Martin, of Cherry Tree Drive, Parr, added: “I don’t remember the crash itself.

“I feel sorry for the driver, if I had died it could have ruined his life.”

Police have investigated the collision but will not take any action against Martin.

After receiving a third letter stating the local authority will take legal action if he does not pay up he has agreed to pay the costs back at £2 per week.

In a statement Councillor Joe De’Asha, Cabinet Member for Environmental Protection, said St Helens Council was taking the correct course of action.

He said: “Obviously we’re delighted that Mr Lloyd has now recovered from his injuries.

“However we feel it would be unfair to let council tax payers pick up the tab for an operation that resulted entirely from Mr Lloyd’s actions.

“CCTV footage clearly indicates the sequence of events in this matter and we are satisfied that it’s appropriate to invoice Mr Lloyd for the relevant costs.

“Damage to council property and the costs we incur in the aftermath of an accident are usually recovered via vehicle insurance. In this case that is clearly not an option.

“This is not a case of uncaring, unyielding bureaucracy – we’re more than happy to look at cases where there is the slightest suggestion of unfairness - however in this case the facts are clear.

“We are pleased to see that Mr Lloyd has accepted responsibility for his role in this incident.”

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11:01am Thu 10 Feb 11

newtonbiker says...

Absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting. newtonbiker

12:00pm Thu 10 Feb 11

mjo says...

How much did his stupidity cost the NHS,police, etc.
He is alive and well and good luck to him but £240, he got off lightly
How much did his stupidity cost the NHS,police, etc. He is alive and well and good luck to him but £240, he got off lightly mjo

12:23pm Thu 10 Feb 11

suttonboy says...

... come on, if he had have died, would the council have billed his family for the £240? Its a fair question.
... come on, if he had have died, would the council have billed his family for the £240? Its a fair question. suttonboy

3:21pm Thu 10 Feb 11

papyt says...

I Know it sounds harsh,BUT if it was found to be have been the car drivers fault the bill would be paid for by his car insurance,if cyclists wish to travel on the main roads maybe they should also have insurance.
I Know it sounds harsh,BUT if it was found to be have been the car drivers fault the bill would be paid for by his car insurance,if cyclists wish to travel on the main roads maybe they should also have insurance. papyt

3:38pm Thu 10 Feb 11

BenFetch says...

I'm sorry Martin, I was at first horrified to hear of your injuries, then really happy you recovered, then laughed my head off at Councillor Joe De’Asha's comments.

I'm sorry, but he really is more of an imbecile for that comment than you could ever hope to be for causing an accident, which by pure definition, is not a deliberate act on your part.

Perhaps he wants you to cut off your finger and send it to him in the post as payment?

Why do people vote these Labour idiots in?
I'm sorry Martin, I was at first horrified to hear of your injuries, then really happy you recovered, then laughed my head off at Councillor Joe De’Asha's comments. I'm sorry, but he really is more of an imbecile for that comment than you could ever hope to be for causing an accident, which by pure definition, is not a deliberate act on your part. Perhaps he wants you to cut off your finger and send it to him in the post as payment? Why do people vote these Labour idiots in? BenFetch

3:45pm Thu 10 Feb 11

Star_reader says...

I'm very happy Mr Lloyd has made a succesful recovery, but he must accept responsibility for his actions.
If it had been the car driver at fault, would Mr Lloyd be looking for recompence?
£240 will be significantly a lot less than the actual cost of his actions, lets remember the road was closed for around 5hrs?
I'm very happy Mr Lloyd has made a succesful recovery, but he must accept responsibility for his actions. If it had been the car driver at fault, would Mr Lloyd be looking for recompence? £240 will be significantly a lot less than the actual cost of his actions, lets remember the road was closed for around 5hrs? Star_reader

4:02pm Thu 10 Feb 11

ste64 says...

The council again trying to get a bit of cash for nothing, making mountains out of molehills i think they are a f...... joke
The council again trying to get a bit of cash for nothing, making mountains out of molehills i think they are a f...... joke ste64

6:13pm Thu 10 Feb 11

marierimmersdinner says...

This is perhaps the only decision Labour have made that I condone. Your fault , pay up. The country keeps you in benefits the least you can do is not double the cost to the taxpayer.
This is perhaps the only decision Labour have made that I condone. Your fault , pay up. The country keeps you in benefits the least you can do is not double the cost to the taxpayer. marierimmersdinner

6:13pm Thu 10 Feb 11

marierimmersdinner says...

This is perhaps the only decision Labour have made that I condone. Your fault , pay up. The country keeps you in benefits the least you can do is not double the cost to the taxpayer.
This is perhaps the only decision Labour have made that I condone. Your fault , pay up. The country keeps you in benefits the least you can do is not double the cost to the taxpayer. marierimmersdinner

7:39pm Thu 10 Feb 11

plain-truth says...

Perhaps all those motorists who were left out of pocket due to the road being closed for 5 hours and having to take massive detours, should start a class action against the cyclist for damages.
At the time of the accident, the usual call went out for speed cameras and the lowering of the limit on that stretch of road by the same old ' put motorists in their place ' brigade.
Now we find out that the cyclist was to blame . Shut up, pay up and start acting responsibly.
Perhaps all those motorists who were left out of pocket due to the road being closed for 5 hours and having to take massive detours, should start a class action against the cyclist for damages. At the time of the accident, the usual call went out for speed cameras and the lowering of the limit on that stretch of road by the same old ' put motorists in their place ' brigade. Now we find out that the cyclist was to blame . Shut up, pay up and start acting responsibly. plain-truth

7:47pm Thu 10 Feb 11

MrtheD says...

Its quite simple - If you don't pay the council pay. The council get their money from me and the other working people of the town. Why should I pay because your stupidty caused a massive accident and huge delay for hundreds of people?

I have lived within a mile or so of that junction for each of my 34 years, i've cycled over the East Lancs there from boyhood to well, yesterday - it can be dangerous, especially if your not being careful.

Be thankful for your miracle escape, quit whining and pay the small amount for the hassle YOU caused.
Its quite simple - If you don't pay the council pay. The council get their money from me and the other working people of the town. Why should I pay because your stupidty caused a massive accident and huge delay for hundreds of people? I have lived within a mile or so of that junction for each of my 34 years, i've cycled over the East Lancs there from boyhood to well, yesterday - it can be dangerous, especially if your not being careful. Be thankful for your miracle escape, quit whining and pay the small amount for the hassle YOU caused. MrtheD

8:21pm Thu 10 Feb 11

webman says...

Pay up...It was nobody elses fault only yours, perhaps it will give you the jolt needed to take more care in future..Two pound a week, over two years to pay it. Thats all wrong as well for me,five pound a week minimum for me would be better
Pay up...It was nobody elses fault only yours, perhaps it will give you the jolt needed to take more care in future..Two pound a week, over two years to pay it. Thats all wrong as well for me,five pound a week minimum for me would be better webman

11:13pm Thu 10 Feb 11

BenFetch says...

Was it a huge wheelie gone wrong or something? I've done the same at Centre Parcs on a hired bike, had to be picked up by three pensioners. Terrible graze.

Can the top brass not spare a few coppers to pay this off? Well yes, but they'd rather close a front line service in the interest of politics.
Was it a huge wheelie gone wrong or something? I've done the same at Centre Parcs on a hired bike, had to be picked up by three pensioners. Terrible graze. Can the top brass not spare a few coppers to pay this off? Well yes, but they'd rather close a front line service in the interest of politics. BenFetch

4:27pm Fri 11 Feb 11

Bbshark says...

I've never heard so much rubbish. Martin nearly lost his life and is now unable to continue to work. But people say it his fault why should I pay? £240 between all the tax paying is only pennies. What if it was your child that nearly died? Would you still think it's only right that they have to pay? Think about how nasty you sound! It's not as if our tax payments will go down because he has to pay or up if he doesn't.
I've never heard so much rubbish. Martin nearly lost his life and is now unable to continue to work. But people say it his fault why should I pay? £240 between all the tax paying is only pennies. What if it was your child that nearly died? Would you still think it's only right that they have to pay? Think about how nasty you sound! It's not as if our tax payments will go down because he has to pay or up if he doesn't. Bbshark

10:37am Sat 12 Feb 11

susan23 says...

Over 25 years ago I was in a road accident. I was knocked down by a car, I was on the pavement at the time. So I think we can conclude that I was not at fault.
I received a bill for £37.00 from the ambulance service, apparently part of the road traffic act entails sending a bill to victims of RTA's.
I think given that at the time that was about 3days wages, this chap has been charged the equivalent.
Over 25 years ago I was in a road accident. I was knocked down by a car, I was on the pavement at the time. So I think we can conclude that I was not at fault. I received a bill for £37.00 from the ambulance service, apparently part of the road traffic act entails sending a bill to victims of RTA's. I think given that at the time that was about 3days wages, this chap has been charged the equivalent. susan23

1:58am Sun 13 Feb 11

mlrm4 says...

Just reading through these comments makes me sick, yes looking at his accident in black and white it was caused by an error on his part but if you actually knew the details anybody would say it was just a dreadful accident, many people would have crossed when he did, he wasn't being some maniac racing across the lancs to beat the traffic, and up until his accident martin was a hard working tax payer too. If only some people actually used both their brains and their hearts before putting nasty comments to things like this, then st helens might actually turn into a half decent town to live in.
Just reading through these comments makes me sick, yes looking at his accident in black and white it was caused by an error on his part but if you actually knew the details anybody would say it was just a dreadful accident, many people would have crossed when he did, he wasn't being some maniac racing across the lancs to beat the traffic, and up until his accident martin was a hard working tax payer too. If only some people actually used both their brains and their hearts before putting nasty comments to things like this, then st helens might actually turn into a half decent town to live in. mlrm4

1:56pm Sun 13 Feb 11

plain-truth says...

Many other tax payers all so have to pick up the bills caused by the actions of others who fail to think before they act.
The levels of tax being paid in this country contnues to grow for many reasons but every time some one burns down a school, smashes up a bus stop or causes a road closure , we all pay. Trouble is, the amount we have to find increases year on year and will do until some one gets a grip and decideds that those who are directly involved should foot the bill.
Many other tax payers all so have to pick up the bills caused by the actions of others who fail to think before they act. The levels of tax being paid in this country contnues to grow for many reasons but every time some one burns down a school, smashes up a bus stop or causes a road closure , we all pay. Trouble is, the amount we have to find increases year on year and will do until some one gets a grip and decideds that those who are directly involved should foot the bill. plain-truth

6:21pm Mon 14 Feb 11

Durrell says...

mlrm4 said

"if you actually knew the details anybody would say it was just a dreadful accident, many people would have crossed when he did, he wasn't being some maniac racing across the lancs to beat the traffic"

Perhaps you could enlighten us? You obviously know much more about the accident than other people. It would be interesting to know what the circumstances where? If the lad was as stated in your comments crossing at the same time everybody else would and wasn't racing across the Lancs to beat the traffic then what happened? I'm genuinely curious.

Ultimately it sounds like the lad was very fortunate and good luck to him for the future.
mlrm4 said "if you actually knew the details anybody would say it was just a dreadful accident, many people would have crossed when he did, he wasn't being some maniac racing across the lancs to beat the traffic" Perhaps you could enlighten us? You obviously know much more about the accident than other people. It would be interesting to know what the circumstances where? If the lad was as stated in your comments crossing at the same time everybody else would and wasn't racing across the Lancs to beat the traffic then what happened? I'm genuinely curious. Ultimately it sounds like the lad was very fortunate and good luck to him for the future. Durrell

6:39pm Tue 15 Feb 11

Yorkshiremanabroad says...

Just pay the bill and stop whinging, cyclists should be insured in any case, there seems to be a few on here who dont begrudge you a "few quid", very altruistic, particularly with other peoples tax money, perhaps they can put up and chip in for you too... bbshark and benfetch for 2.
Nobody even thought of the innocent car driver who at the very least, lost the no claims and insurance excess and will be several hundreds out of pocket because of this, they would have little chance of getting anything back apart from a huge bill, pay that for the driver whilst your at it and stop trying to abdicate your responsibility.
Just pay the bill and stop whinging, cyclists should be insured in any case, there seems to be a few on here who dont begrudge you a "few quid", very altruistic, particularly with other peoples tax money, perhaps they can put up and chip in for you too... bbshark and benfetch for 2. Nobody even thought of the innocent car driver who at the very least, lost the no claims and insurance excess and will be several hundreds out of pocket because of this, they would have little chance of getting anything back apart from a huge bill, pay that for the driver whilst your at it and stop trying to abdicate your responsibility. Yorkshiremanabroad

7:06am Wed 16 Feb 11

plain-truth says...

Nicely put Yorkshiremanabroad !
Nicely put Yorkshiremanabroad ! plain-truth

10:43am Wed 16 Feb 11

webman says...

Well put MrtheD, Haydock and Yorkshireman .both 10/10
Well put MrtheD, Haydock and Yorkshireman .both 10/10 webman

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