kv wrote:
Is that where my council tax is going ? Is the funding of this monument by St Helens council tax payers at the heart of the best interests of our community ? How about funding a new stadium for the Saints, an A & E department for St helens hospital, funding for activities to keep kids off the streets on a night, funding for more policing of our streets by community officers, keeping schools open that will otherwise be closed. Who on earth is in charge of our purse strings

kv wrote:
Is that where my council tax is going ? Is the funding of this monument by St Helens council tax payers at the heart of the best interests of our community ? How about funding a new stadium for the Saints, an A & E department for St helens hospital, funding for activities to keep kids off the streets on a night, funding for more policing of our streets by community officers, keeping schools open that will otherwise be closed. Who on earth is in charge of our purse strings

kv wrote:
Is that where my council tax is going ? Is the funding of this monument by St Helens council tax payers at the heart of the best interests of our community ? How about funding a new stadium for the Saints, an A & E department for St helens hospital, funding for activities to keep kids off the streets on a night, funding for more policing of our streets by community officers, keeping schools open that will otherwise be closed. Who on earth is in charge of our purse strings

ellyz wrote:

kv wrote:
Is that where my council tax is going ? Is the funding of this monument by St Helens council tax payers at the heart of the best interests of our community ? How about funding a new stadium for the Saints, an A & E department for St helens hospital, funding for activities to keep kids off the streets on a night, funding for more policing of our streets by community officers, keeping schools open that will otherwise be closed. Who on earth is in charge of our purse strings

well said

ellyz wrote:

kv wrote:
Is that where my council tax is going ? Is the funding of this monument by St Helens council tax payers at the heart of the best interests of our community ? How about funding a new stadium for the Saints, an A & E department for St helens hospital, funding for activities to keep kids off the streets on a night, funding for more policing of our streets by community officers, keeping schools open that will otherwise be closed. Who on earth is in charge of our purse strings

well said

ellyz wrote:

kv wrote:
Is that where my council tax is going ? Is the funding of this monument by St Helens council tax payers at the heart of the best interests of our community ? How about funding a new stadium for the Saints, an A & E department for St helens hospital, funding for activities to keep kids off the streets on a night, funding for more policing of our streets by community officers, keeping schools open that will otherwise be closed. Who on earth is in charge of our purse strings

well said

kev jones wrote:
So it's a big white girl's head? to help celebrate our former mining industry?

kev jones wrote:
So it's a big white girl's head? to help celebrate our former mining industry?

kev jones wrote:
So it's a big white girl's head? to help celebrate our former mining industry?

kv wrote:

kev jones wrote:
So it's a big white girl's head? to help celebrate our former mining industry?

Clearly obvious, don't you think. Thousands of poeple will brave the seven sea's from far & wide, every corner of the globe to marvel at such a majestic wonder, and wonder...........? What, Why, How much did that cost, Who was the numpty that paid for it & how on earth do you think you will benefit form a "big girl's white concrete & marble head with eyes closed dreaming of being some where else right now remember coal mining" in this day and age ?

kv wrote:

kev jones wrote:
So it's a big white girl's head? to help celebrate our former mining industry?

Clearly obvious, don't you think. Thousands of poeple will brave the seven sea's from far & wide, every corner of the globe to marvel at such a majestic wonder, and wonder...........? What, Why, How much did that cost, Who was the numpty that paid for it & how on earth do you think you will benefit form a "big girl's white concrete & marble head with eyes closed dreaming of being some where else right now remember coal mining" in this day and age ?

kv wrote:

kev jones wrote:
So it's a big white girl's head? to help celebrate our former mining industry?

Clearly obvious, don't you think. Thousands of poeple will brave the seven sea's from far & wide, every corner of the globe to marvel at such a majestic wonder, and wonder...........? What, Why, How much did that cost, Who was the numpty that paid for it & how on earth do you think you will benefit form a "big girl's white concrete & marble head with eyes closed dreaming of being some where else right now remember coal mining" in this day and age ?

Steve D wrote:
Stephen,

No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit.

I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining.

By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

Steve D wrote:
Stephen,

No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit.

I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining.

By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

Steve D wrote:
Stephen,

No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit.

I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining.

By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

Steve D wrote:
Stephen, No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit. I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining. By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

Steve D wrote:
Stephen, No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit. I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining. By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

Steve D wrote:
Stephen, No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit. I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining. By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

Stephen Wainwright wrote:

Steve D wrote: Stephen, No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit. I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining. By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

This is the brief Steve which has been in the public domain for quite some time. I can't see how the artist has breached it. I think the keyword is 'reference'. • Make a big impact & be highly visible both day & night • Become a recognised & instantly recognisable "geographic & brand identifier" for St.Helens • Become a positive icon for the Liverpool City Region & North West England • Reference the history & heritage of the site and former colliery • Symbolise the positive transformation, regeneration, & future of St.Helens • Become an "informal" visitor destination in its own right • Act as a catalyst for the recreation & leisure development of the immediate area • Foster community pride & help raise local aspirations • Reference &/or consider the use of renewable energy • Be permanent & low-maintenance • Take account of the site's topography, ground conditions, existing planting & wildlife • Be capable of construction & installation within the set budget & time frame

Stephen Wainwright wrote:

Steve D wrote: Stephen, No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit. I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining. By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

This is the brief Steve which has been in the public domain for quite some time. I can't see how the artist has breached it. I think the keyword is 'reference'. • Make a big impact & be highly visible both day & night • Become a recognised & instantly recognisable "geographic & brand identifier" for St.Helens • Become a positive icon for the Liverpool City Region & North West England • Reference the history & heritage of the site and former colliery • Symbolise the positive transformation, regeneration, & future of St.Helens • Become an "informal" visitor destination in its own right • Act as a catalyst for the recreation & leisure development of the immediate area • Foster community pride & help raise local aspirations • Reference &/or consider the use of renewable energy • Be permanent & low-maintenance • Take account of the site's topography, ground conditions, existing planting & wildlife • Be capable of construction & installation within the set budget & time frame

Stephen Wainwright wrote:

Steve D wrote: Stephen, No one expects a literal piece of artwork, after all nobody wants to see a 20 metre piece of machinery or filthy minor trudging up at the end of a 14 hour shift, but I fail to see how this is even representative or open to correct interpretation. Infact, the artist himself comes out with a load of meaningless buzz words and rubbish and cannot link it properly to the project remit. I venture to guess hes had this design for years waiting for someone to fund him and the organisers have fallen hook, line and sinker for his explanation of how it ties in to the coal mining. By all means request a piece of art, by all means make it big bold and special - but dont launch it under the premise that it somehow is to represent one of our finest heritages and industries when it in no way does.

This is the brief Steve which has been in the public domain for quite some time. I can't see how the artist has breached it. I think the keyword is 'reference'. • Make a big impact & be highly visible both day & night • Become a recognised & instantly recognisable "geographic & brand identifier" for St.Helens • Become a positive icon for the Liverpool City Region & North West England • Reference the history & heritage of the site and former colliery • Symbolise the positive transformation, regeneration, & future of St.Helens • Become an "informal" visitor destination in its own right • Act as a catalyst for the recreation & leisure development of the immediate area • Foster community pride & help raise local aspirations • Reference &/or consider the use of renewable energy • Be permanent & low-maintenance • Take account of the site's topography, ground conditions, existing planting & wildlife • Be capable of construction & installation within the set budget & time frame

Steve D wrote:
In defence of the project, please note the response above where it was stated that their will be no financial impact directly from the town and therefore despite the many causes for negativity people have got 'waste of money' is not really a valid one.

Steve D wrote:
In defence of the project, please note the response above where it was stated that their will be no financial impact directly from the town and therefore despite the many causes for negativity people have got 'waste of money' is not really a valid one.

Steve D wrote:
In defence of the project, please note the response above where it was stated that their will be no financial impact directly from the town and therefore despite the many causes for negativity people have got 'waste of money' is not really a valid one.

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Disgusted wrote:
The Council should spend its money on people who are here and now, not an industry which is dead and gone. There's many social and sporting activities which would benefit from a fraction of the sum wasted on this piece of useless rubbish. Shame on the lot of you

Disgusted wrote:
The Council should spend its money on people who are here and now, not an industry which is dead and gone. There's many social and sporting activities which would benefit from a fraction of the sum wasted on this piece of useless rubbish. Shame on the lot of you

Disgusted wrote:
The Council should spend its money on people who are here and now, not an industry which is dead and gone. There's many social and sporting activities which would benefit from a fraction of the sum wasted on this piece of useless rubbish. Shame on the lot of you

Alfiesays wrote:
What is this! Are we living in St Helens or Easter Island. This self indulgent rubbish will make us the laughing stock of other local towns. It will look like the rest of it is buried underground. Having said that we have already got the 'Big Hand' on the roundabout near B & Q, now the 'Big Head', are there anymore big body parts to appear round the town....or shouldn't I ask

Alfiesays wrote:
What is this! Are we living in St Helens or Easter Island. This self indulgent rubbish will make us the laughing stock of other local towns. It will look like the rest of it is buried underground. Having said that we have already got the 'Big Hand' on the roundabout near B & Q, now the 'Big Head', are there anymore big body parts to appear round the town....or shouldn't I ask

Alfiesays wrote:
What is this! Are we living in St Helens or Easter Island. This self indulgent rubbish will make us the laughing stock of other local towns. It will look like the rest of it is buried underground. Having said that we have already got the 'Big Hand' on the roundabout near B & Q, now the 'Big Head', are there anymore big body parts to appear round the town....or shouldn't I ask

Ray Spruance wrote:
Its a pity we did not know about this terrible waste of money last Wednesday and not today, we could have shown what we think of the idea and the council at the ballot boxes.

Ray Spruance wrote:
Its a pity we did not know about this terrible waste of money last Wednesday and not today, we could have shown what we think of the idea and the council at the ballot boxes.

Ray Spruance wrote:
Its a pity we did not know about this terrible waste of money last Wednesday and not today, we could have shown what we think of the idea and the council at the ballot boxes.