Watts slams 'right wing press' over Miliband jibes

Watts slams 'right wing press' over Miliband jibes

Dave Watts says voters should choose substance over style (9140890)

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DAVE Watts has lamented what he believes is the national press’s obsession with "style over substance" when judging who should be the country’s next prime minister.

The St Helens North Labour MP says elements of the media are fascinated with portraying Labour leader Ed Miliband as a geek rather than listening to his policies.

He has laughed off being likened by cartoonists to the character, Wallace, from the children’s animation films, and says he can offer “something different” to voters.

Miliband has faced several perceived PR disasters recently including being pictured with the Sun newspaper and an unflattering photo eating a bacon sandwich.

Watts, who turns 64 later this month, is becoming increasingly outspoken recently as eyes begin to look forward to the next General Election in May 2015.

He said: “I am concerned some people seem to have accepted the message that the next election should be decided on looks and spin rather than issues of substance.

“They continue their daily propaganda war on Ed Miliband describing him as wooden, boring, academic and unelectable while their pour buckets of flattery over David Cameron, describing him as good lucking, charismatic and normal.”

“Putting aside the fact that I believe that both descriptions are untrue and flattering in the extreme to David Cameron I would like to pose the following questions.”

“What on earth have such trivial qualities got to do with who would be the prime minister for Britain?"

“Was Winston Churchill our war time leader good looking? Was Clement Atlee who introduced our welfare state and the NHS charismatic? The answer to both is certainly no.

“I urge St Helens people to look beyond such trivial issues of looks and spin and concentrate on who they believe will help them and their families improve their living standards and provide high quality public services.”

Despite Watts’ comments it has been suggested Miliband has turned to one of the world’s leading experts on autism to help boost his “political empathy” and connect with voters.

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5:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

Why do we have to listen to this claptrap from dimwit Dave?
In fact - why is dimwit Dave? Why is he on the planet at all?
Why do we have to listen to this claptrap from dimwit Dave? In fact - why is dimwit Dave? Why is he on the planet at all? barrie timpson
  • Score: 4

8:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Sankey says...

Style and substance go together. Generally if somebody looks and acts like a div they are one. And substance where is that either from milliband or our resident sitting MP Dave watts .
Style and substance go together. Generally if somebody looks and acts like a div they are one. And substance where is that either from milliband or our resident sitting MP Dave watts . Sankey
  • Score: 3

10:21am Thu 14 Aug 14

Hughwithaview says...

What a load of old drivel! If Dave Watts has nothing better to do with his time than come out with this rubbish it's about time he packed in - does anyone know what he actually does for St Helens anyway?
What a load of old drivel! If Dave Watts has nothing better to do with his time than come out with this rubbish it's about time he packed in - does anyone know what he actually does for St Helens anyway? Hughwithaview
  • Score: 3

11:33am Thu 14 Aug 14

Bill Bradbury says...

"I agree with Dave"---for once!!!?
"I agree with Dave"---for once!!!? Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Thu 14 Aug 14

mikeperry109 says...

There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.
There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party. mikeperry109
  • Score: 6

12:19am Fri 15 Aug 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Mike you obviously believe everything that the right wing press tells you. All, apart from the Mirror, supported the Tories at the last election although I recall the Guardian threw its hat behind the Lib/Dems.
Still, you probably believe in the economic recovery until after the election then surprise surprise it will be back to screwing the working class whilst the bankers and the speculators in the City continue to con the lot of you. Just wait until the bank rate goes up next year and, apart from the super rich, those on mortgages will have their pips really squeaked.

It is surprising that all who have never met Miliband, (I haven't) know everything about him. Now from where do they get that information? Would it be the press in which you totally believe?
Mike you obviously believe everything that the right wing press tells you. All, apart from the Mirror, supported the Tories at the last election although I recall the Guardian threw its hat behind the Lib/Dems. Still, you probably believe in the economic recovery until after the election then surprise surprise it will be back to screwing the working class whilst the bankers and the speculators in the City continue to con the lot of you. Just wait until the bank rate goes up next year and, apart from the super rich, those on mortgages will have their pips really squeaked. It is surprising that all who have never met Miliband, (I haven't) know everything about him. Now from where do they get that information? Would it be the press in which you totally believe? Bill Bradbury
  • Score: -3

1:58am Fri 15 Aug 14

rs earlestown says...

mikeperry109 wrote:
There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.
Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.
[quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.[/p][/quote]Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead. rs earlestown
  • Score: 0

10:03am Fri 15 Aug 14

mikeperry109 says...

rs earlestown wrote:
mikeperry109 wrote:
There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.
Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.
Choosing to get the boot from New Labour was one of the best decisions I ever made, RS, and I will continue to harangue the party who cast aside all socialist principles in pursuit of power and when they took it in 1997 made a complete mess of it! The coalition may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather see them in government, for all I disagree with some of their decisions, than the principle free bunch of professional politicians that make up the modern parliamentary Labour Party.
Miliband was ab adviser to Gordon Brown, and part of the last cabinet which almost bankrupted the country . If you want them back in power, you obviously need some sort of therapy!
Have a nice day.
[quote][p][bold]rs earlestown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.[/p][/quote]Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.[/p][/quote]Choosing to get the boot from New Labour was one of the best decisions I ever made, RS, and I will continue to harangue the party who cast aside all socialist principles in pursuit of power and when they took it in 1997 made a complete mess of it! The coalition may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather see them in government, for all I disagree with some of their decisions, than the principle free bunch of professional politicians that make up the modern parliamentary Labour Party. Miliband was ab adviser to Gordon Brown, and part of the last cabinet which almost bankrupted the country . If you want them back in power, you obviously need some sort of therapy! Have a nice day. mikeperry109
  • Score: 2

6:12pm Fri 15 Aug 14

rs earlestown says...

mikeperry109 wrote:
rs earlestown wrote:
mikeperry109 wrote:
There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.
Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.
Choosing to get the boot from New Labour was one of the best decisions I ever made, RS, and I will continue to harangue the party who cast aside all socialist principles in pursuit of power and when they took it in 1997 made a complete mess of it! The coalition may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather see them in government, for all I disagree with some of their decisions, than the principle free bunch of professional politicians that make up the modern parliamentary Labour Party.
Miliband was ab adviser to Gordon Brown, and part of the last cabinet which almost bankrupted the country . If you want them back in power, you obviously need some sort of therapy!
Have a nice day.
Mike Perry, I do not support or vote for any of them, but if I did the constant whinging about any of them it would be for the right reasons, not because of what personally happened to you. Some socialist you are if you would rather have this coalition in power and watch people suffer by it. Its no wonder you never got anywhere when you stood for election.
[quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rs earlestown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.[/p][/quote]Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.[/p][/quote]Choosing to get the boot from New Labour was one of the best decisions I ever made, RS, and I will continue to harangue the party who cast aside all socialist principles in pursuit of power and when they took it in 1997 made a complete mess of it! The coalition may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather see them in government, for all I disagree with some of their decisions, than the principle free bunch of professional politicians that make up the modern parliamentary Labour Party. Miliband was ab adviser to Gordon Brown, and part of the last cabinet which almost bankrupted the country . If you want them back in power, you obviously need some sort of therapy! Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]Mike Perry, I do not support or vote for any of them, but if I did the constant whinging about any of them it would be for the right reasons, not because of what personally happened to you. Some socialist you are if you would rather have this coalition in power and watch people suffer by it. Its no wonder you never got anywhere when you stood for election. rs earlestown
  • Score: -2

7:55pm Fri 15 Aug 14

mikeperry109 says...

rs earlestown wrote:
mikeperry109 wrote:
rs earlestown wrote:
mikeperry109 wrote:
There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.
Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.
Choosing to get the boot from New Labour was one of the best decisions I ever made, RS, and I will continue to harangue the party who cast aside all socialist principles in pursuit of power and when they took it in 1997 made a complete mess of it! The coalition may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather see them in government, for all I disagree with some of their decisions, than the principle free bunch of professional politicians that make up the modern parliamentary Labour Party.
Miliband was ab adviser to Gordon Brown, and part of the last cabinet which almost bankrupted the country . If you want them back in power, you obviously need some sort of therapy!
Have a nice day.
Mike Perry, I do not support or vote for any of them, but if I did the constant whinging about any of them it would be for the right reasons, not because of what personally happened to you. Some socialist you are if you would rather have this coalition in power and watch people suffer by it. Its no wonder you never got anywhere when you stood for election.
Unemployment is down, interest rates are low, help to buy has enabled young people to buy a home instead of being exploited by landlords and according to economists we have one of the strongest economies in the world. I was unhappy with tuition fees ( introduced by New Labour! ) being raised, I think the so called bedroom tax is unfair to many people, and I understand that capping benefits is a pretty crude way to reduce the benefits bill. I would like to be rid of the coalition, but not to be replaced by the same people who supported the Iraq war (look at the state of Iraq now), enriched their friends in the city by privatising the building of schools and hospitals, and failed to control the banks.
You seem to be obsessed with the fact that I was expelled from the Labour Party - there are plenty of people in the Labour Party who agree with most of the points I have raised in my letters to the Star. Labour abandoned ordinary people back in 1997, and are now so far removed that they are hemorrhaging grass roots support. To return to the subject of Watts complaint, Miliband has one of the lowest ratings with the electorate for an opposition party since the war. Your assertion that no-one suffered under the New Labour government is delusional, they will be viewed by historians as a disaster. If Labour returned to its socialist roots, pledging to return energy and transport to public control, repealing the anti-trade union legislation, and committing to re-distribution of wealth through fairer taxation they would have my support - I might even apply to re-join!
[quote][p][bold]rs earlestown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rs earlestown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: There is an old saying "When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck". In the case of Miliband, he is one lame duck, a total embarrassment, but one that sums up the modern principle-free Labour Party.[/p][/quote]Oh look its Mike Perry with the old labour chestnut again, his one and only reason for his constant whinging is that he is still smarting from getting the boot from labour. Change the record Mike its getting monotonous. Have a moan at the coalition instead.[/p][/quote]Choosing to get the boot from New Labour was one of the best decisions I ever made, RS, and I will continue to harangue the party who cast aside all socialist principles in pursuit of power and when they took it in 1997 made a complete mess of it! The coalition may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather see them in government, for all I disagree with some of their decisions, than the principle free bunch of professional politicians that make up the modern parliamentary Labour Party. Miliband was ab adviser to Gordon Brown, and part of the last cabinet which almost bankrupted the country . If you want them back in power, you obviously need some sort of therapy! Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]Mike Perry, I do not support or vote for any of them, but if I did the constant whinging about any of them it would be for the right reasons, not because of what personally happened to you. Some socialist you are if you would rather have this coalition in power and watch people suffer by it. Its no wonder you never got anywhere when you stood for election.[/p][/quote]Unemployment is down, interest rates are low, help to buy has enabled young people to buy a home instead of being exploited by landlords and according to economists we have one of the strongest economies in the world. I was unhappy with tuition fees ( introduced by New Labour! ) being raised, I think the so called bedroom tax is unfair to many people, and I understand that capping benefits is a pretty crude way to reduce the benefits bill. I would like to be rid of the coalition, but not to be replaced by the same people who supported the Iraq war (look at the state of Iraq now), enriched their friends in the city by privatising the building of schools and hospitals, and failed to control the banks. You seem to be obsessed with the fact that I was expelled from the Labour Party - there are plenty of people in the Labour Party who agree with most of the points I have raised in my letters to the Star. Labour abandoned ordinary people back in 1997, and are now so far removed that they are hemorrhaging grass roots support. To return to the subject of Watts complaint, Miliband has one of the lowest ratings with the electorate for an opposition party since the war. Your assertion that no-one suffered under the New Labour government is delusional, they will be viewed by historians as a disaster. If Labour returned to its socialist roots, pledging to return energy and transport to public control, repealing the anti-trade union legislation, and committing to re-distribution of wealth through fairer taxation they would have my support - I might even apply to re-join! mikeperry109
  • Score: 1

11:09pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Mike totally agree with your last sentence. Trouble with Labour under Brown when he was over the treasury is that they employed a financial adviser company whose name escapes me, that even Major kicked out as useless brought in by Thatcher. After a nights sleep I will recall who it was.
Mike totally agree with your last sentence. Trouble with Labour under Brown when he was over the treasury is that they employed a financial adviser company whose name escapes me, that even Major kicked out as useless brought in by Thatcher. After a nights sleep I will recall who it was. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 3

11:36pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Arthur Anderson was the adviser. Got the Tories in trouble with his advice, sacked by Major then got Labour when Brown re-employed him.
Arthur Anderson was the adviser. Got the Tories in trouble with his advice, sacked by Major then got Labour when Brown re-employed him. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 5

12:30pm Wed 20 Aug 14

DrChan says...

I felt let down by Labour, and was willing to give it a chance when Ed Miliband was elected as leader, but no. Ed is not Red.

For a real left-wing alternative, I looked up the Greens, and they're not a single-issue party after all.

They're the ones pursuing greater taxation of the rich, the renationalisation of the railways and energy companies, and also are calling for a referendum on the EU.

As for the many disaffected voting UKIP - it seems absurd that people seem to think back to the Second World War with such pride only for them to forget what caused it all in the first place. Lessons learned?

http://anotherangryv
oice.blogspot.co.uk/
2014/03/73-ukip-vote
rs-green-party.html
I felt let down by Labour, and was willing to give it a chance when Ed Miliband was elected as leader, but no. Ed is not Red. For a real left-wing alternative, I looked up the Greens, and they're not a single-issue party after all. They're the ones pursuing greater taxation of the rich, the renationalisation of the railways and energy companies, and also are calling for a referendum on the EU. As for the many disaffected voting UKIP - it seems absurd that people seem to think back to the Second World War with such pride only for them to forget what caused it all in the first place. Lessons learned? http://anotherangryv oice.blogspot.co.uk/ 2014/03/73-ukip-vote rs-green-party.html DrChan
  • Score: 3

2:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

DrChan wrote:
I felt let down by Labour, and was willing to give it a chance when Ed Miliband was elected as leader, but no. Ed is not Red.

For a real left-wing alternative, I looked up the Greens, and they're not a single-issue party after all.

They're the ones pursuing greater taxation of the rich, the renationalisation of the railways and energy companies, and also are calling for a referendum on the EU.

As for the many disaffected voting UKIP - it seems absurd that people seem to think back to the Second World War with such pride only for them to forget what caused it all in the first place. Lessons learned?

http://anotherangryv

oice.blogspot.co.uk/

2014/03/73-ukip-vote

rs-green-party.html
Excellent post.
[quote][p][bold]DrChan[/bold] wrote: I felt let down by Labour, and was willing to give it a chance when Ed Miliband was elected as leader, but no. Ed is not Red. For a real left-wing alternative, I looked up the Greens, and they're not a single-issue party after all. They're the ones pursuing greater taxation of the rich, the renationalisation of the railways and energy companies, and also are calling for a referendum on the EU. As for the many disaffected voting UKIP - it seems absurd that people seem to think back to the Second World War with such pride only for them to forget what caused it all in the first place. Lessons learned? http://anotherangryv oice.blogspot.co.uk/ 2014/03/73-ukip-vote rs-green-party.html[/p][/quote]Excellent post. barrie timpson
  • Score: 2

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