Children hurled homophobic abuse at women

Police looking for information over hate crime attack

Police looking for information over hate crime attack

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TWO women and a man faced a barrage of homophobic abuse from youths as they left a park, police have said.

An 18-year-old woman, her partner, aged 19, and a 21-year-old man were leaving Sankey Valley Park in Newton-le-Willows when they were verbally abused by the youths.

The offenders were two boys and a girl aged between ten and 13.

The incident happened on Bradlegh Road at around 8pm on Monday, August 4.

As the friends walked along Kingsway close to Tyrer Road a man approached them and was joined by the children who appeared to know him.

He then also started to abuse the group.

Detective Constable Michelle Cliffe said: “This was a deeply upsetting incident for the woman and her friends as the group of youths began the verbal abuse in the park. When they decided to leave the youths followed and continued with the abuse.

“When the man approached the victim attempted to explain the situation to him. He wasn’t interested in what she was telling him and he continued with the verbal abuse.

“People who carry out these offences should be left in no doubt that their behaviour is totally unacceptable and I want to take this opportunity to reassure the community that we are determined to take robust action against them.”

One of the boys is described as white, aged between 11 and 12, about 4ft, black cropped hair and wearing a dark blue polo shirt and dark blue jeans.

The second boy is around ten, white, around 4ft, with dark spiked hair and was wearing dark blue jeans and a baggy white T-shirt.

The girl is described as white, between 12 and 13, around 4ft tall with long ginger hair worn in pigtails. She wore a floral dress.

He is described as white, around 30 and about 5ft 9in. He has very short, almost shaven black hair and was wearing light blue baggy jeans, a tight fitting white Adidas t-shirt and a long silver necklace.

Contact police on 0151 777 6811 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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12:17pm Mon 11 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

Arresting some children for calling some people some names?

Not nice I know , but are we going to arrest every child for calling somebody a name? Get a grip for Christ's sake.
Arresting some children for calling some people some names? Not nice I know , but are we going to arrest every child for calling somebody a name? Get a grip for Christ's sake. barrie timpson
  • Score: 8

5:04pm Mon 11 Aug 14

JuDu71 says...

Absolutely ridiculous, go catch some real criminals, oh yeh that's right real crimes get covered up, pathetic, what a laughing stock our police are going after kids for calling names
Absolutely ridiculous, go catch some real criminals, oh yeh that's right real crimes get covered up, pathetic, what a laughing stock our police are going after kids for calling names JuDu71
  • Score: 9

8:43pm Mon 11 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me...
Makes you wonder what the two women and the man were doing to attract the attention of the name callers.
sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me... Makes you wonder what the two women and the man were doing to attract the attention of the name callers. lawman2004
  • Score: 3

11:39pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Keva68 says...

Judging from the above comments on the story it represents cosmopolitan St Helens at its best again.Just to sum up the ramblings of ignorant idiots.

1-"Makes you wonder what the two woman and man were doing to attract the name callers"
Apparently gay people who go into parks are up to no good in your world.
2-"Arresting children for calling people names"
So Racist and Homophobic abuse is ok as long as it's from children ,I hope the people are not unlucky enough to come across your Offspring if you bring them up with your misguided values.
3-"Stick and stones will break make bones but names will never hurt me"
Again another half wit who thinks calling people names due to sexual orientation,Race,Rel
igion is ok as it's only name calling.

I wonder are the ridiculous ignorant comments the true face of St Helens or just some backward individuals who know no better.
Judging from the above comments on the story it represents cosmopolitan St Helens at its best again.Just to sum up the ramblings of ignorant idiots. 1-"Makes you wonder what the two woman and man were doing to attract the name callers" Apparently gay people who go into parks are up to no good in your world. 2-"Arresting children for calling people names" So Racist and Homophobic abuse is ok as long as it's from children ,I hope the people are not unlucky enough to come across your Offspring if you bring them up with your misguided values. 3-"Stick and stones will break make bones but names will never hurt me" Again another half wit who thinks calling people names due to sexual orientation,Race,Rel igion is ok as it's only name calling. I wonder are the ridiculous ignorant comments the true face of St Helens or just some backward individuals who know no better. Keva68
  • Score: -3

11:49pm Mon 11 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

So you suggest we arrest every child that ever calls anybody a name?

What about children calling somebody for having 2 left feet if thy're no good at football? What about a child calling another one fatty or big nose in the playground? How are these insults any worse than what these children have said.
Like I say it's not nice and I don't like it , but I don't think it's a matter for the police.
These politically correct folk and thought police will have everybody locked up for daring to speak soon.
So you suggest we arrest every child that ever calls anybody a name? What about children calling somebody for having 2 left feet if thy're no good at football? What about a child calling another one fatty or big nose in the playground? How are these insults any worse than what these children have said. Like I say it's not nice and I don't like it , but I don't think it's a matter for the police. These politically correct folk and thought police will have everybody locked up for daring to speak soon. barrie timpson
  • Score: 7

11:53pm Mon 11 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

Don't call people names ten year old. What a waste of resources.
Don't call people names ten year old. What a waste of resources. barrie timpson
  • Score: 0

12:04am Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

My wife's just called me lazy for not washing the dishes before bed. Heartless cow , I'm on the phone to the po po now.
My wife's just called me lazy for not washing the dishes before bed. Heartless cow , I'm on the phone to the po po now. barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

12:11am Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

The real irony in this is that people won't hate people for being LGBT , but they'll start to hate them for being attention grabbing heavy handed idiots that can't handle basic life situations.
Like the couple in Ireland recently that are taking up decent time and money because somebody wouldn't bake them a cake.
Now instead of using what must be hundreds of other shops that would have no issue with it and perhaps understanding that somebody else may not approve (no abuse no name calling) , they go running off to the European court of human rights.
I'm not a racist , I'm not homophobic , no issue with it whatsoever , what I don't like is people going over the top and getting ridiculous authorities involved instead of just saying "idiot" and carrying on with the rest of there lives. People don't learn to live alongside other people by enforced laws.
If it's constant abuse or violence - step in and come down heavy , but the fact that people can't handle being called something once , quite frankly is a sad indictment of todays society.
The real irony in this is that people won't hate people for being LGBT , but they'll start to hate them for being attention grabbing heavy handed idiots that can't handle basic life situations. Like the couple in Ireland recently that are taking up decent time and money because somebody wouldn't bake them a cake. Now instead of using what must be hundreds of other shops that would have no issue with it and perhaps understanding that somebody else may not approve (no abuse no name calling) , they go running off to the European court of human rights. I'm not a racist , I'm not homophobic , no issue with it whatsoever , what I don't like is people going over the top and getting ridiculous authorities involved instead of just saying "idiot" and carrying on with the rest of there lives. People don't learn to live alongside other people by enforced laws. If it's constant abuse or violence - step in and come down heavy , but the fact that people can't handle being called something once , quite frankly is a sad indictment of todays society. barrie timpson
  • Score: 3

12:12am Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

their lives , sorry.
their lives , sorry. barrie timpson
  • Score: 1

12:44am Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

Keva68 wrote:
Judging from the above comments on the story it represents cosmopolitan St Helens at its best again.Just to sum up the ramblings of ignorant idiots.

1-"Makes you wonder what the two woman and man were doing to attract the name callers"
Apparently gay people who go into parks are up to no good in your world.
2-"Arresting children for calling people names"
So Racist and Homophobic abuse is ok as long as it's from children ,I hope the people are not unlucky enough to come across your Offspring if you bring them up with your misguided values.
3-"Stick and stones will break make bones but names will never hurt me"
Again another half wit who thinks calling people names due to sexual orientation,Race,Rel

igion is ok as it's only name calling.

I wonder are the ridiculous ignorant comments the true face of St Helens or just some backward individuals who know no better.
...and I hope that by calling people backward individuals that's not a slur on people with learning difficulties?

Maybe I should call the police ?
[quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: Judging from the above comments on the story it represents cosmopolitan St Helens at its best again.Just to sum up the ramblings of ignorant idiots. 1-"Makes you wonder what the two woman and man were doing to attract the name callers" Apparently gay people who go into parks are up to no good in your world. 2-"Arresting children for calling people names" So Racist and Homophobic abuse is ok as long as it's from children ,I hope the people are not unlucky enough to come across your Offspring if you bring them up with your misguided values. 3-"Stick and stones will break make bones but names will never hurt me" Again another half wit who thinks calling people names due to sexual orientation,Race,Rel igion is ok as it's only name calling. I wonder are the ridiculous ignorant comments the true face of St Helens or just some backward individuals who know no better.[/p][/quote]...and I hope that by calling people backward individuals that's not a slur on people with learning difficulties? Maybe I should call the police ? barrie timpson
  • Score: 2

1:08am Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

Your brave sitting outside Fingerpost shops I would feel safer conducting a survey in Kabul.

It is a Dump though let's face it.

60 minute make over for Parr, you would need 60 years.

Kev , I like you and you put some fantastic posts on here , but above are some of the comments you have made on stories about Parr and Fingerpost.
Some people remonstrated on the above threads about how they were from the areas mentioned and were deeply offended by your labelling of their areas. People can seldom sometimes help where they live nearly as much as people can't help their sexuality.
How would you have felt if the police came knocking on your door for these posts?
and don't you think it's a little bit hypocritical that you are calling others idiots and the like for calling people names yet it's OK for you to slur these areas and people?
Now tell me how can a person
Your brave sitting outside Fingerpost shops I would feel safer conducting a survey in Kabul. It is a Dump though let's face it. 60 minute make over for Parr, you would need 60 years. Kev , I like you and you put some fantastic posts on here , but above are some of the comments you have made on stories about Parr and Fingerpost. Some people remonstrated on the above threads about how they were from the areas mentioned and were deeply offended by your labelling of their areas. People can seldom sometimes help where they live nearly as much as people can't help their sexuality. How would you have felt if the police came knocking on your door for these posts? and don't you think it's a little bit hypocritical that you are calling others idiots and the like for calling people names yet it's OK for you to slur these areas and people? Now tell me how can a person barrie timpson
  • Score: 7

3:50pm Tue 12 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

Keva has just called me a half wit.... should I report this to the Police as i regard it as Witist ?
Keva has just called me a half wit.... should I report this to the Police as i regard it as Witist ? lawman2004
  • Score: 8

4:47pm Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

It's that crazy isn't it. You can't go through life having somebody prosecuted every time someone has their feelings hurt - which is exactly what has happened here.
The only difference is some madmen have made a law out of it.
How is it any different to the feelings of anything else?
I could say to somebody "Real Madrid area far superior team to Celta Vigo - look the the trophy count it's an embarrassing difference" - now that is sure to hurt the feelings of some Celta Vigo fans , in fact I'm sure some would be deeply upset. So what this law in effect is saying is that I should be prosecuted for saying this. How is it any more their fault for being a fan of a team than it is someone being LGBT?
Kev also delightfully says that he hopes people don't come across our "offspring" as they may have been influenced by our misguided values , now I'm sure that's very upsetting to the children of people whose values differ from that of their parents , in fact maybe one of them will go to the EU about it , but on that note , I'd like to say that if I were ever to find out my children had done something like this at the age of ten , firstly I'd explain to them what there insult meant , because they probably have no idea what they are saying , then I'd explain to them that it isn't wrong to be in a same sex relationship , and they should not use slurs like this. They would no doubt understand the gravity of the situation then.
But if the police were to come and do it , they would not understand and would probably develop a deep hatred for the police and for LGBT people.
That's why we have problems in society , people don't sort out problems like this with people - they get the authorities involved. If somebody shouted an insult to me , I think I'd reply with a swift "**** off".
Now if it continued and became harassment , or turned into assault then that's a different matter , and although I wouldn't myself , I could understand people turning to the authorities.
In fact if this was children of mine in this situation and they'd call the police , I'm afraid I'd be saying , you have to learn to deal with childish playground insults in an adult manner because when you do have to face a real problem in life you're going to fold like a quilt.
It's that crazy isn't it. You can't go through life having somebody prosecuted every time someone has their feelings hurt - which is exactly what has happened here. The only difference is some madmen have made a law out of it. How is it any different to the feelings of anything else? I could say to somebody "Real Madrid area far superior team to Celta Vigo - look the the trophy count it's an embarrassing difference" - now that is sure to hurt the feelings of some Celta Vigo fans , in fact I'm sure some would be deeply upset. So what this law in effect is saying is that I should be prosecuted for saying this. How is it any more their fault for being a fan of a team than it is someone being LGBT? Kev also delightfully says that he hopes people don't come across our "offspring" as they may have been influenced by our misguided values , now I'm sure that's very upsetting to the children of people whose values differ from that of their parents , in fact maybe one of them will go to the EU about it , but on that note , I'd like to say that if I were ever to find out my children had done something like this at the age of ten , firstly I'd explain to them what there insult meant , because they probably have no idea what they are saying , then I'd explain to them that it isn't wrong to be in a same sex relationship , and they should not use slurs like this. They would no doubt understand the gravity of the situation then. But if the police were to come and do it , they would not understand and would probably develop a deep hatred for the police and for LGBT people. That's why we have problems in society , people don't sort out problems like this with people - they get the authorities involved. If somebody shouted an insult to me , I think I'd reply with a swift "**** off". Now if it continued and became harassment , or turned into assault then that's a different matter , and although I wouldn't myself , I could understand people turning to the authorities. In fact if this was children of mine in this situation and they'd call the police , I'm afraid I'd be saying , you have to learn to deal with childish playground insults in an adult manner because when you do have to face a real problem in life you're going to fold like a quilt. barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

5:10pm Tue 12 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

I have a fair suspicion that the wanted suspects in this case are travelers actually, so it will be interesting to see what happens and I wouldn't expect any reprisal if it is , because we mustn't do anything to upset them either-
but it will be funny watching the politically correct and the far left worrying over which minority to upset least , they'll be throwing copies of the Guardian everywhere and spilling their fruit teas , looking for ways to self flagellate or a bonfire to sacrifice themselves on.
On that note it was hilarious to watch them when Richard Dawkins was hammering Christianity - they loved him , lapped up up like a cat would cream , yet when he said the same things about Islam KERRBOOM! he was instantly all the names under the sun - racist etc etc. Great equality , which is a bit like our loony left Labour battle for MP - no men allowed , equality through inequality , brilliant. They need help.
I have a fair suspicion that the wanted suspects in this case are travelers actually, so it will be interesting to see what happens and I wouldn't expect any reprisal if it is , because we mustn't do anything to upset them either- but it will be funny watching the politically correct and the far left worrying over which minority to upset least , they'll be throwing copies of the Guardian everywhere and spilling their fruit teas , looking for ways to self flagellate or a bonfire to sacrifice themselves on. On that note it was hilarious to watch them when Richard Dawkins was hammering Christianity - they loved him , lapped up up like a cat would cream , yet when he said the same things about Islam KERRBOOM! he was instantly all the names under the sun - racist etc etc. Great equality , which is a bit like our loony left Labour battle for MP - no men allowed , equality through inequality , brilliant. They need help. barrie timpson
  • Score: 7

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