Wardens to hit litterbugs with fines

Council officers with the mound of rubbish which was collected across the town centre over one weekend

Council officers with the mound of rubbish which was collected across the town centre over one weekend

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ENVIRONMENTAL wardens with the power to fine litterbugs on the spot will start patrolling the borough later this month.

The wardens are being introduced as part of a drive by St Helens Council to bring tougher sanctions on those leaving litter and dog fouling.

The size of the fines is not yet determined but it is believed they could amount to £60.

As the Star reported last week, a staggering £1.8million was spent by the council last year on clearing up dropped litter in the borough. The Star's mailbag and email accounts have also been bulging with readers complaints over the amount of litter being dropped in the town centre and at beauty spots across the borough.

The town centre remains a hot topic of debate and a common concern is that street rubbish that builds throughout the day leaves it appearing dirty by the evening.

As well as dog dirt, common types of litter found in the town include cigarette stumps, food waste and packaging as well as bus and train ticket stubs.

To demonstrate the issue, the council’s environmental protection service created a dramatic display showing the impact litterbugs have on the town.

A single weekend’s worth of litter collected by street cleaners from the town centre was put on view outside the town hall, with the rubbish reaching almost eight feet in height.

Councillor Seve Gomez-Aspron, cabinet member for environment and neighbourhoods, told the Star.“The wardens are due to start going out in the third week of August.

“They will go out borough-wide and tackling dog fouling and litter. One of the main complaints from the public is dog fouling so it is important that this is tackled and in the demonstration around the town hall the amount of litter which was on display was an absolute disgrace.

“The wardens will be able to issue on-the-spot fines and it will give us a bigger team. The number of wardens isn’t confirmed yet but they will be able to go out in teams of four and it is aimed at mainly parks and local shopping centres.

“Other boroughs have shown this has reduced litter rapidly and it is to make sure that those who don’t drop litter are not paying for everybody else.”

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8:59am Wed 6 Aug 14

Hughwithaview says...

Let us look at what could happen in the town centre - an individual high on drugs flicks a cigarette butt onto the floor

Warden: "excuse me Sir but would you mind picking that up"
Drug Addict: "**** off!"
Warden: If you do not pick it up Sir, I will issue you with an on the spot fine of £60"
Drug Addict: "**** off! before I kick your ******* head in!"

It does not even have to be a drug addict - it could be any of the very suspect folk that hang around town or for that matter in parks.

Warden: "Excuse me Madam but do you know you can be fined on the spot for dropping litter like that - it's £60"
Litter Lout: Well **** me! - I ain't got 60p never mind £60 so you can shove it up your ****!"

Even going around in "teams" of 4, no Warden is going to put themselves in danger, and why should they?. So the aggressive serial litter droppers will get away with it and the odd fine here and there will be given out to the more mild mannered culprit just to make it look as if the scheme is making a difference.

Sorry to be a pessamist but if the Council was serious about this issue, it should have introduced fines years ago in line with other towns but as usual, we in St Helens are always "johnny last wagon" with most things and unfortunately, now it is too little too late.
Let us look at what could happen in the town centre - an individual high on drugs flicks a cigarette butt onto the floor Warden: "excuse me Sir but would you mind picking that up" Drug Addict: "**** off!" Warden: If you do not pick it up Sir, I will issue you with an on the spot fine of £60" Drug Addict: "**** off! before I kick your ******* head in!" It does not even have to be a drug addict - it could be any of the very suspect folk that hang around town or for that matter in parks. Warden: "Excuse me Madam but do you know you can be fined on the spot for dropping litter like that - it's £60" Litter Lout: Well **** me! - I ain't got 60p never mind £60 so you can shove it up your ****!" Even going around in "teams" of 4, no Warden is going to put themselves in danger, and why should they?. So the aggressive serial litter droppers will get away with it and the odd fine here and there will be given out to the more mild mannered culprit just to make it look as if the scheme is making a difference. Sorry to be a pessamist but if the Council was serious about this issue, it should have introduced fines years ago in line with other towns but as usual, we in St Helens are always "johnny last wagon" with most things and unfortunately, now it is too little too late. Hughwithaview
  • Score: 19

9:04am Wed 6 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

I do applaud this , but I have to say the vast majority of "litter" is now coming from items which have escaped from the utterly inadequate recycling bags , so maybe the money would be better spent on a third bin for our recycling like every other borough with common sense has done.
I do applaud this , but I have to say the vast majority of "litter" is now coming from items which have escaped from the utterly inadequate recycling bags , so maybe the money would be better spent on a third bin for our recycling like every other borough with common sense has done. barrie timpson
  • Score: 13

9:08am Wed 6 Aug 14

mikeashworth says...

i have no problem with things that might reduce amount of litter dropped however the Council are also culpable in this matter.

They removed a litter bin from an area of Town Centre where lots of peopel stop to eat etc, resulting in more litter.

Reported in June, still nothing has happened.

http://www.fixmystre
et.com/report/491487
i have no problem with things that might reduce amount of litter dropped however the Council are also culpable in this matter. They removed a litter bin from an area of Town Centre where lots of peopel stop to eat etc, resulting in more litter. Reported in June, still nothing has happened. http://www.fixmystre et.com/report/491487 mikeashworth
  • Score: 14

11:13am Wed 6 Aug 14

jumperr says...

We're have they been for all the yrs that this has been promised to be done , I am not going to hold my breath,but surely some rule should be run over the complete lacck of action that these people got voted in on,this has always been on their election sheets and this is a admission of one of the many commitments not fulfilled
We're have they been for all the yrs that this has been promised to be done , I am not going to hold my breath,but surely some rule should be run over the complete lacck of action that these people got voted in on,this has always been on their election sheets and this is a admission of one of the many commitments not fulfilled jumperr
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

suttonboy says...

...and how many times do you walk past a bin in the local park, be it Sherdley, Taylor, Sutton etc. only to see it overflowing with litter - it's at least half the bins I've seen. I trust the council will use the money earned from this venture to tackle the problem of unemptied litter bins.
...and how many times do you walk past a bin in the local park, be it Sherdley, Taylor, Sutton etc. only to see it overflowing with litter - it's at least half the bins I've seen. I trust the council will use the money earned from this venture to tackle the problem of unemptied litter bins. suttonboy
  • Score: 14

12:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

kjd161 says...

Don't hold your breath on this one.
Don't hold your breath on this one. kjd161
  • Score: 6

12:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

kjd161 says...

Don't hold your breath on this one.
Don't hold your breath on this one. kjd161
  • Score: -1

2:34pm Wed 6 Aug 14

jumperr says...

If you had litter bins every where it wouldn't make a bit of difference, there's them who will just not give a monkeys people who bother put it in there pocket and take it home or the plastic bag it's in
If you had litter bins every where it wouldn't make a bit of difference, there's them who will just not give a monkeys people who bother put it in there pocket and take it home or the plastic bag it's in jumperr
  • Score: 3

2:42pm Wed 6 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

I'm going to hedge a fair bet , that those caught dropping litter will not be paying their own fines. Double whammy for the tax payer , pay for the service and pay the fines as well.
Sounds like a Labour idea to me......
I'm going to hedge a fair bet , that those caught dropping litter will not be paying their own fines. Double whammy for the tax payer , pay for the service and pay the fines as well. Sounds like a Labour idea to me...... barrie timpson
  • Score: 3

3:49pm Wed 6 Aug 14

frankly says...

All to do with upbringing, not the lack of bins.. I spend lots of time in Switzerland, im here now for 6 weeks.. They don't know what litter is, from young to old, because they respect their country and its streets
All to do with upbringing, not the lack of bins.. I spend lots of time in Switzerland, im here now for 6 weeks.. They don't know what litter is, from young to old, because they respect their country and its streets frankly
  • Score: 8

3:55pm Wed 6 Aug 14

jumperr says...

Switzerland i think it wouldn't be a bad idea picking their rubbish up, not sure with the comparison considering the way it is
Switzerland i think it wouldn't be a bad idea picking their rubbish up, not sure with the comparison considering the way it is jumperr
  • Score: -1

5:50pm Wed 6 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

...and how come there's money for this but not the cash to open Sutton pool back up , or is that not enough of a cash cow for our supposedly socialist council???
...and how come there's money for this but not the cash to open Sutton pool back up , or is that not enough of a cash cow for our supposedly socialist council??? barrie timpson
  • Score: 1

6:19pm Wed 6 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

Will they be going after dog owners and the filth they leave behind on our streets ?
Will they be going after dog owners and the filth they leave behind on our streets ? lawman2004
  • Score: -2

8:48pm Wed 6 Aug 14

barrie timpson says...

"The wardens are being introduced as part of a drive by St Helens Council to bring tougher sanctions on those leaving litter and dog fouling."
"The wardens are being introduced as part of a drive by St Helens Council to bring tougher sanctions on those leaving litter and dog fouling." barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

9:06pm Wed 6 Aug 14

jumperr says...

Helena should get involved and do these patrols of the estates they say they will be doing how on earth can this happen say one thing and do now't,why is this council so poor
Helena should get involved and do these patrols of the estates they say they will be doing how on earth can this happen say one thing and do now't,why is this council so poor jumperr
  • Score: 1

9:28pm Wed 6 Aug 14

frankly says...

Jumper.. their is a comparison,, SwitzerlanD did have litter problems, but they hit litter bugs HARD, and as for those who couldn't pay, they were MADE to do work in lieu of their fine.. SIMPLE
Jumper.. their is a comparison,, SwitzerlanD did have litter problems, but they hit litter bugs HARD, and as for those who couldn't pay, they were MADE to do work in lieu of their fine.. SIMPLE frankly
  • Score: 2

1:19am Thu 7 Aug 14

Geoff911 says...

jumperr wrote:
Helena should get involved and do these patrols of the estates they say they will be doing how on earth can this happen say one thing and do now't,why is this council so poor
Helena can patrol the estates all they want buy cant do anything about litter as its on the streets its council land not Helena's, the council had wardens that did this but the service got cut 3 years ago.
[quote][p][bold]jumperr[/bold] wrote: Helena should get involved and do these patrols of the estates they say they will be doing how on earth can this happen say one thing and do now't,why is this council so poor[/p][/quote]Helena can patrol the estates all they want buy cant do anything about litter as its on the streets its council land not Helena's, the council had wardens that did this but the service got cut 3 years ago. Geoff911
  • Score: 3

7:40am Thu 7 Aug 14

mikeashworth says...

barrie timpson wrote:
I'm going to hedge a fair bet , that those caught dropping litter will not be paying their own fines. Double whammy for the tax payer , pay for the service and pay the fines as well.
Sounds like a Labour idea to me......
Here is an idea. For those who can't pay, they give x hours to the town as a volunteer.

What will they be doing?

Picking up litter, that's what they'll be doing.
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: I'm going to hedge a fair bet , that those caught dropping litter will not be paying their own fines. Double whammy for the tax payer , pay for the service and pay the fines as well. Sounds like a Labour idea to me......[/p][/quote]Here is an idea. For those who can't pay, they give x hours to the town as a volunteer. What will they be doing? Picking up litter, that's what they'll be doing. mikeashworth
  • Score: 6

7:57am Thu 7 Aug 14

jumperr says...

A few touchy obviously not my back yard stay here or open your eyes
A few touchy obviously not my back yard stay here or open your eyes jumperr
  • Score: -1

11:30am Thu 7 Aug 14

jumperr says...

You would think the council would come on here and say it's not only socialists that drop litter
You would think the council would come on here and say it's not only socialists that drop litter jumperr
  • Score: 0

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