Pensioner hurt in assault in Mesnes Park Newton-le-Willows

Pensioner hurt in park assault

Pensioner hurt in park assault

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A PENSIONER was left with a cut to her face and a bruise to her eye after confronting two people in a park while walking her dog.

The 74-year-old was in Mesnes Park in Newton-le-Willows just at around 1.30pm on Monday, July 28 when her terrier ran up to a cream coloured Labrador which was with a teenage girl and another female.

One kicked out at the terrier which led to an argument between the three during which the elderly woman was assaulted.

The incident was seen by a man who was with his younger son on a trike.

Another man helped the pensioner home.

The pair were seen leaving the park towards Tudor Park Drive.

The first girl is described as white, aged around 15, around 5ft 4in tall and with a slim build and long blonde hair. She was also wearing a white t-shirt.

The second is of a similar height and build but had shoulder length hair.

Detective Constable Mark Williams from St Helens CID said: "It is important that we get to the bottom of what happened here as an elderly woman has suffered quite a nasty eye injury. We need independent witnesses who saw the altercation and tell us who was involved. I am particularly keen to trace the man who was in the park with a young boy on a trike.

“This man may have seen what happened but was unable to intervene and he had a child with him. If that was you, please get in touch so you can tell me what happened between these women.”

Call St Helens CID on 0151 777 6887 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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5:21pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Hughwithaview says...

What on earth is going on in this world today when teenage girls can physically assault a 74 year old lady in a park in broad daylight?

It is a sad reflection on today's society when there is no respect or consideration towards the elderly. I do not condemn all youth as I know there are many good hearted youngsters out there but I sincerely hope the two girls involved are caught and made to answer for their heinous behaviour. Unfortunately, if other recent cases are anything to go by, they will probably end up with a pat on the head and a short walk to freedom.
What on earth is going on in this world today when teenage girls can physically assault a 74 year old lady in a park in broad daylight? It is a sad reflection on today's society when there is no respect or consideration towards the elderly. I do not condemn all youth as I know there are many good hearted youngsters out there but I sincerely hope the two girls involved are caught and made to answer for their heinous behaviour. Unfortunately, if other recent cases are anything to go by, they will probably end up with a pat on the head and a short walk to freedom. Hughwithaview
  • Score: 16

7:45pm Tue 5 Aug 14

butscratcher says...

I think that the bloke who witness this and just walked on is just as bad !!!!
I think that the bloke who witness this and just walked on is just as bad !!!! butscratcher
  • Score: 2

9:43pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

Dog owners deserve each other. I eagerly await the day when dog ownership is outlawed in the UK. Her dog wasn't on a lead , how anti social whilst the other dog owners are thugs.
Dog owners deserve each other. I eagerly await the day when dog ownership is outlawed in the UK. Her dog wasn't on a lead , how anti social whilst the other dog owners are thugs. lawman2004
  • Score: -18

9:08am Wed 6 Aug 14

Hughwithaview says...

butscratcher wrote:
I think that the bloke who witness this and just walked on is just as bad !!!!
You are right - I know people fear for their own safety these days but I could never stand by whilst someone was being attacked - pensioner, child or anyone for that matter. I would act first and think later which some would call foolish. Nevertheless, my conscience would haunt me forever after if I stood by and did nothing.
[quote][p][bold]butscratcher[/bold] wrote: I think that the bloke who witness this and just walked on is just as bad !!!![/p][/quote]You are right - I know people fear for their own safety these days but I could never stand by whilst someone was being attacked - pensioner, child or anyone for that matter. I would act first and think later which some would call foolish. Nevertheless, my conscience would haunt me forever after if I stood by and did nothing. Hughwithaview
  • Score: 4

9:15am Wed 6 Aug 14

sawqueen says...

lawman2004 wrote:
Dog owners deserve each other. I eagerly await the day when dog ownership is outlawed in the UK. Her dog wasn't on a lead , how anti social whilst the other dog owners are thugs.
This is a ridiculous comment. I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it was your parent or grand parent who had been assaulted. Sounds to me like the it was the 2 girls that needed to be on a lead.
[quote][p][bold]lawman2004[/bold] wrote: Dog owners deserve each other. I eagerly await the day when dog ownership is outlawed in the UK. Her dog wasn't on a lead , how anti social whilst the other dog owners are thugs.[/p][/quote]This is a ridiculous comment. I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it was your parent or grand parent who had been assaulted. Sounds to me like the it was the 2 girls that needed to be on a lead. sawqueen
  • Score: 13

9:55am Wed 6 Aug 14

Christof says...

Well we have all we need here.....can't be too many 15 year old girls with cream Labs walking around Newton or the park.
See how brave they are then......
Well we have all we need here.....can't be too many 15 year old girls with cream Labs walking around Newton or the park. See how brave they are then...... Christof
  • Score: 9

12:37pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Christof wrote:
Well we have all we need here.....can't be too many 15 year old girls with cream Labs walking around Newton or the park.
See how brave they are then......
Exactly, this ought to be an easy job for the police or neighbours to identify. In Billinge I daily see and recognise responsible dog owners and as you write there can't be all that many cream Lab owners in Newton. Labs are a docile dog, which I once owned for 15 years and the attack was apparently/allegedly caused by the terrier off the lead attacking it at which these girls over-reacted. The witnesses are crucial to determine the facts. All we have to go on is the story.
[quote][p][bold]Christof[/bold] wrote: Well we have all we need here.....can't be too many 15 year old girls with cream Labs walking around Newton or the park. See how brave they are then......[/p][/quote]Exactly, this ought to be an easy job for the police or neighbours to identify. In Billinge I daily see and recognise responsible dog owners and as you write there can't be all that many cream Lab owners in Newton. Labs are a docile dog, which I once owned for 15 years and the attack was apparently/allegedly caused by the terrier off the lead attacking it at which these girls over-reacted. The witnesses are crucial to determine the facts. All we have to go on is the story. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 6

12:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

kjd161 says...

DC Williams, " It's important we get to the bottom of what happened here". A 74 year old pensioner was viciously assaulted by two teenage, female yobs. That's what happened here. The rights and wrongs of the lady having her dog off the leash is neither here nor there. There can be no excuse for the attack on a defenceless old lady. And lawman's post is a disgrace.
DC Williams, " It's important we get to the bottom of what happened here". A 74 year old pensioner was viciously assaulted by two teenage, female yobs. That's what happened here. The rights and wrongs of the lady having her dog off the leash is neither here nor there. There can be no excuse for the attack on a defenceless old lady. And lawman's post is a disgrace. kjd161
  • Score: 5

5:45pm Wed 6 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

'The rights and wrongs of the lady having her dog off the leash is neither here nor there.'... so what your suggesting is that it's ok for certain people to break the law but not for others ? Take the ages out of this event and what are we left with. Some one who walks a clearly out of control dog in a public place whilst not using a lead and two thugs who are strutting around with a dog. Common denominator in all this... dog ownership.
'The rights and wrongs of the lady having her dog off the leash is neither here nor there.'... so what your suggesting is that it's ok for certain people to break the law but not for others ? Take the ages out of this event and what are we left with. Some one who walks a clearly out of control dog in a public place whilst not using a lead and two thugs who are strutting around with a dog. Common denominator in all this... dog ownership. lawman2004
  • Score: -7

7:22pm Wed 6 Aug 14

kjd161 says...

lawman2004 wrote:
'The rights and wrongs of the lady having her dog off the leash is neither here nor there.'... so what your suggesting is that it's ok for certain people to break the law but not for others ? Take the ages out of this event and what are we left with. Some one who walks a clearly out of control dog in a public place whilst not using a lead and two thugs who are strutting around with a dog. Common denominator in all this... dog ownership.
It's the law that dogs must be on a leash in a designated pedestrian area, and also, where there is livestock. So, I'm not sure if the old lady was breaking the law or not.It doesn't really matter. My main point was that it is indefensible for two young people to assault ANYONE, but especially an old age pensioner. You seem to be condemning all dog owners. I don't get that, and, I'm not even a dog lover really. Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.
[quote][p][bold]lawman2004[/bold] wrote: 'The rights and wrongs of the lady having her dog off the leash is neither here nor there.'... so what your suggesting is that it's ok for certain people to break the law but not for others ? Take the ages out of this event and what are we left with. Some one who walks a clearly out of control dog in a public place whilst not using a lead and two thugs who are strutting around with a dog. Common denominator in all this... dog ownership.[/p][/quote]It's the law that dogs must be on a leash in a designated pedestrian area, and also, where there is livestock. So, I'm not sure if the old lady was breaking the law or not.It doesn't really matter. My main point was that it is indefensible for two young people to assault ANYONE, but especially an old age pensioner. You seem to be condemning all dog owners. I don't get that, and, I'm not even a dog lover really. Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others. kjd161
  • Score: 3

9:41pm Wed 6 Aug 14

779150 says...

I am the man that witnessed this assault and I have contacted the police. I will discuss what I witnessed with them once they return my phone call. To those who commented then agreed with the comment about me being just as bad I would urge you to think about what you're saying based on what you know. No one walked by and let this happen and I would remind you it was this young woman, who I hope gets caught, who assaulted the woman and not me who witnessed it. I will discuss the finer details with the police which hopefully leads to this person being caught and dealt with.
I am the man that witnessed this assault and I have contacted the police. I will discuss what I witnessed with them once they return my phone call. To those who commented then agreed with the comment about me being just as bad I would urge you to think about what you're saying based on what you know. No one walked by and let this happen and I would remind you it was this young woman, who I hope gets caught, who assaulted the woman and not me who witnessed it. I will discuss the finer details with the police which hopefully leads to this person being caught and dealt with. 779150
  • Score: 12

10:11pm Wed 6 Aug 14

lawman2004 says...

'Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.'. Working dogs by all means, guide dogs, drugs dogs, dogs that are used by the emergency services... after that though, there is no need for any one else to own these nasty killing machines. I am sick of hearing.... my dog won't, my dog doesn't, I always pick up the mess.... If this where the case, we wouldn't be reading about kids having their faces chewed off every other week, We wouldn't be treading in dog muck on our streets and in our parks. More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership. The message is now spreading. 10 years ago, who ever thought that smoking would be outlawed and virtually wiped out ? It's now time to turn our attention to dogs.
'Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.'. Working dogs by all means, guide dogs, drugs dogs, dogs that are used by the emergency services... after that though, there is no need for any one else to own these nasty killing machines. I am sick of hearing.... my dog won't, my dog doesn't, I always pick up the mess.... If this where the case, we wouldn't be reading about kids having their faces chewed off every other week, We wouldn't be treading in dog muck on our streets and in our parks. More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership. The message is now spreading. 10 years ago, who ever thought that smoking would be outlawed and virtually wiped out ? It's now time to turn our attention to dogs. lawman2004
  • Score: -6

11:10pm Wed 6 Aug 14

sawqueen says...

lawman2004 wrote:
'Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.'. Working dogs by all means, guide dogs, drugs dogs, dogs that are used by the emergency services... after that though, there is no need for any one else to own these nasty killing machines. I am sick of hearing.... my dog won't, my dog doesn't, I always pick up the mess.... If this where the case, we wouldn't be reading about kids having their faces chewed off every other week, We wouldn't be treading in dog muck on our streets and in our parks. More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership. The message is now spreading. 10 years ago, who ever thought that smoking would be outlawed and virtually wiped out ? It's now time to turn our attention to dogs.
'the message is spreading' There doesn't seem much support on here for your comments.
[quote][p][bold]lawman2004[/bold] wrote: 'Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.'. Working dogs by all means, guide dogs, drugs dogs, dogs that are used by the emergency services... after that though, there is no need for any one else to own these nasty killing machines. I am sick of hearing.... my dog won't, my dog doesn't, I always pick up the mess.... If this where the case, we wouldn't be reading about kids having their faces chewed off every other week, We wouldn't be treading in dog muck on our streets and in our parks. More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership. The message is now spreading. 10 years ago, who ever thought that smoking would be outlawed and virtually wiped out ? It's now time to turn our attention to dogs.[/p][/quote]'the message is spreading' There doesn't seem much support on here for your comments. sawqueen
  • Score: 2

12:43am Thu 7 Aug 14

Truther2 says...

Nothing suprises me in this Town, It`s a walking Jeremy Kyle show sadley may i add,,, Napalm is the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dogs are for life, Scumbags are for Xmas xx..PS Speedy Recoverery to the Local lady xx
Nothing suprises me in this Town, It`s a walking Jeremy Kyle show sadley may i add,,, Napalm is the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dogs are for life, Scumbags are for Xmas xx..PS Speedy Recoverery to the Local lady xx Truther2
  • Score: 5

12:48am Thu 7 Aug 14

Truther2 says...

sawqueen wrote:
lawman2004 wrote:
Dog owners deserve each other. I eagerly await the day when dog ownership is outlawed in the UK. Her dog wasn't on a lead , how anti social whilst the other dog owners are thugs.
This is a ridiculous comment. I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it was your parent or grand parent who had been assaulted. Sounds to me like the it was the 2 girls that needed to be on a lead.
Lawman is evidently a sex pest, with personal interst in Dogging!!
[quote][p][bold]sawqueen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawman2004[/bold] wrote: Dog owners deserve each other. I eagerly await the day when dog ownership is outlawed in the UK. Her dog wasn't on a lead , how anti social whilst the other dog owners are thugs.[/p][/quote]This is a ridiculous comment. I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it was your parent or grand parent who had been assaulted. Sounds to me like the it was the 2 girls that needed to be on a lead.[/p][/quote]Lawman is evidently a sex pest, with personal interst in Dogging!! Truther2
  • Score: 3

9:33am Fri 8 Aug 14

Star_reader says...

lawman2004 wrote:
'Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.'. Working dogs by all means, guide dogs, drugs dogs, dogs that are used by the emergency services... after that though, there is no need for any one else to own these nasty killing machines. I am sick of hearing.... my dog won't, my dog doesn't, I always pick up the mess.... If this where the case, we wouldn't be reading about kids having their faces chewed off every other week, We wouldn't be treading in dog muck on our streets and in our parks. More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership. The message is now spreading. 10 years ago, who ever thought that smoking would be outlawed and virtually wiped out ? It's now time to turn our attention to dogs.
"More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership."

Please don't add facts to back up a ridiculous statement, it takes the fun out of discrediting you.

Every year the UK PFMA commissions the Pet Population report, which looks in detail at pet ownership trends.
2012 Dogs: 8 million
2013 Dogs: 8.5 million
2014 Dogs: 9 million

Woof woof
[quote][p][bold]lawman2004[/bold] wrote: 'Working dogs are ok. I'm not too fussed about any others.'. Working dogs by all means, guide dogs, drugs dogs, dogs that are used by the emergency services... after that though, there is no need for any one else to own these nasty killing machines. I am sick of hearing.... my dog won't, my dog doesn't, I always pick up the mess.... If this where the case, we wouldn't be reading about kids having their faces chewed off every other week, We wouldn't be treading in dog muck on our streets and in our parks. More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership. The message is now spreading. 10 years ago, who ever thought that smoking would be outlawed and virtually wiped out ? It's now time to turn our attention to dogs.[/p][/quote]"More and more people are turning against this culture of dog ownership." Please don't add facts to back up a ridiculous statement, it takes the fun out of discrediting you. Every year the UK PFMA commissions the Pet Population report, which looks in detail at pet ownership trends. 2012 Dogs: 8 million 2013 Dogs: 8.5 million 2014 Dogs: 9 million Woof woof Star_reader
  • Score: 2

9:56am Fri 8 Aug 14

jumperr says...

Is it not a crime, not to report a crime , I'm sure in the system of our justice this applies
Is it not a crime, not to report a crime , I'm sure in the system of our justice this applies jumperr
  • Score: -1

10:27pm Fri 8 Aug 14

butscratcher says...

779150 wrote:
I am the man that witnessed this assault and I have contacted the police. I will discuss what I witnessed with them once they return my phone call. To those who commented then agreed with the comment about me being just as bad I would urge you to think about what you're saying based on what you know. No one walked by and let this happen and I would remind you it was this young woman, who I hope gets caught, who assaulted the woman and not me who witnessed it. I will discuss the finer details with the police which hopefully leads to this person being caught and dealt with.
well I must say , you are a really brave man ???? well behind a keyboard or a telephone line , just turn up in court when it matters my friend !!!! and don't let scum rule !!!
[quote][p][bold]779150[/bold] wrote: I am the man that witnessed this assault and I have contacted the police. I will discuss what I witnessed with them once they return my phone call. To those who commented then agreed with the comment about me being just as bad I would urge you to think about what you're saying based on what you know. No one walked by and let this happen and I would remind you it was this young woman, who I hope gets caught, who assaulted the woman and not me who witnessed it. I will discuss the finer details with the police which hopefully leads to this person being caught and dealt with.[/p][/quote]well I must say , you are a really brave man ???? well behind a keyboard or a telephone line , just turn up in court when it matters my friend !!!! and don't let scum rule !!! butscratcher
  • Score: -3

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