UPDATE: Women taken to hospital after collision

The wreckage of the car after the women were cut free (Pic Robbob)

The wreckage of the car after the women were cut free (Pic Robbob)

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A WOMAN had to be cut out from the wreckage of a car after it was in collision with a lorry on the East Lancs earlier this afternoon.

The woman, thought to be aged in her 50s, was lifted from the Renault Megane on a long stretcher before being taken to hospital.

Firefighters had cut away the roof of the car to free her.  She was taken to Whiston Hospital, though at this stage her injuries are not believed to be serious

Initial reports suggested two women had been cut free but Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service said in a statement on Tuesday that the second woman had been assessed at the scene.

The crash happened shortly after 2.30pm near to the dual carriageway’s junction with Carr Mill Road, opposite the Waterside pub

Fire crews were on the scene until nearly 4pm. Road closures caused considerable traffic congestion around St Helens through Monday afternoon.

 


 

A LORRY has been in collision with a car on the East Lancs Road opposite the Waterside pub at Carr Mill leading to traffic tailbacks.

One lane has been closed and emergency services are at the scene. It is understood that two women were in the car but at this stage there are no reports of any injuries.

The incident is affecting traffic between St Helens and Leigh.

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5:55pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevelunt says...

I would like to know what the Council are going to do about the East Lancs, the amount of accidents on this stretch of road is unbelievable

I would like to see some figures on whether anything has ever been done, and the accident statistics
I would like to know what the Council are going to do about the East Lancs, the amount of accidents on this stretch of road is unbelievable I would like to see some figures on whether anything has ever been done, and the accident statistics stevelunt
  • Score: -14

6:06pm Mon 14 Jul 14

moonman77 says...

Am I reading this comment right? Whats the COUNCIL going to do? Its the idiots behind the wheel thats the problem !!!!
Am I reading this comment right? Whats the COUNCIL going to do? Its the idiots behind the wheel thats the problem !!!! moonman77
  • Score: 23

6:15pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stevelunt says...

moonman77 wrote:
Am I reading this comment right? Whats the COUNCIL going to do? Its the idiots behind the wheel thats the problem !!!!
Yes you are reading it right

Clearly the drivers aren't doing anything about and are seemingly quite happy to constantly crash there and kill / maim people

Or do you not think putting measures in place to either slow people donwn or stop them is a good idea? Like school zones etc

How much the Helicopter cost every time there is a serious incident?

It is clear that particular stretch of road is dangerous, and it is dangerous for a reason. Im asking if the council have done anything to look at why and then look at ways of reducing the accidents
[quote][p][bold]moonman77[/bold] wrote: Am I reading this comment right? Whats the COUNCIL going to do? Its the idiots behind the wheel thats the problem !!!![/p][/quote]Yes you are reading it right Clearly the drivers aren't doing anything about and are seemingly quite happy to constantly crash there and kill / maim people Or do you not think putting measures in place to either slow people donwn or stop them is a good idea? Like school zones etc How much the Helicopter cost every time there is a serious incident? It is clear that particular stretch of road is dangerous, and it is dangerous for a reason. Im asking if the council have done anything to look at why and then look at ways of reducing the accidents stevelunt
  • Score: -11

10:01pm Mon 14 Jul 14

cbol82 says...

What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?!
What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?! cbol82
  • Score: 19

7:28am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevelunt says...

Wow, unbelievable so all those negative marking my comments clearly must the idiot drivers trying to kill people then and have no desire for anything to be done, or at least side with those who are driving erratic, stupid and dangerous

Speed bumps and traffic calming measures are not the answer, It is an accident blackspot, and what normally happens at accident blackspots ?

The speed should be 50 or 40 like other parts of the east lancs, how mnay more deaths should happen ? how many more deaths and serious injuries are acceptable ?

I agree the motorists need to stop doing what they are doing, but hey perhaps they will when they are in hospital or the morgue
Wow, unbelievable so all those negative marking my comments clearly must the idiot drivers trying to kill people then and have no desire for anything to be done, or at least side with those who are driving erratic, stupid and dangerous Speed bumps and traffic calming measures are not the answer, It is an accident blackspot, and what normally happens at accident blackspots ? The speed should be 50 or 40 like other parts of the east lancs, how mnay more deaths should happen ? how many more deaths and serious injuries are acceptable ? I agree the motorists need to stop doing what they are doing, but hey perhaps they will when they are in hospital or the morgue stevelunt
  • Score: -5

7:36am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevelunt says...

cbol82 wrote:
What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?!
The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph

But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane

Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?
[quote][p][bold]cbol82[/bold] wrote: What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?![/p][/quote]The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ? stevelunt
  • Score: -9

7:53am Tue 15 Jul 14

cbol82 says...

stevelunt wrote:
cbol82 wrote:
What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?!
The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph

But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane

Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?
The national speed limit for a road of this type is 70mph so yes it is a reduced speed. Reducing it to 50mph, petition for it to happen but unless people start following the rules overnight it won't make a blind bit of difference in my opinion. I live very close to this section of the road and drive it every day to take my daughter to nursery and she often shouts out when cars zoom passed us because we always do the speed limit and I've taught her what the signs mean and that we have rules to follow. If a four year old can get it it's obviously not rocket science but people just don't want to stick to 60 I'm afraid. Only thing that will make people stick to a speed is an average speed check system but considering there isn't 1 fixed speed camera in St. Helens I doubt that'll be introduced, live in hope I suppose?!
[quote][p][bold]stevelunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cbol82[/bold] wrote: What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?![/p][/quote]The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?[/p][/quote]The national speed limit for a road of this type is 70mph so yes it is a reduced speed. Reducing it to 50mph, petition for it to happen but unless people start following the rules overnight it won't make a blind bit of difference in my opinion. I live very close to this section of the road and drive it every day to take my daughter to nursery and she often shouts out when cars zoom passed us because we always do the speed limit and I've taught her what the signs mean and that we have rules to follow. If a four year old can get it it's obviously not rocket science but people just don't want to stick to 60 I'm afraid. Only thing that will make people stick to a speed is an average speed check system but considering there isn't 1 fixed speed camera in St. Helens I doubt that'll be introduced, live in hope I suppose?! cbol82
  • Score: 2

8:01am Tue 15 Jul 14

stevelunt says...

cbol82 wrote:
stevelunt wrote:
cbol82 wrote:
What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?!
The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph

But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane

Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?
The national speed limit for a road of this type is 70mph so yes it is a reduced speed. Reducing it to 50mph, petition for it to happen but unless people start following the rules overnight it won't make a blind bit of difference in my opinion. I live very close to this section of the road and drive it every day to take my daughter to nursery and she often shouts out when cars zoom passed us because we always do the speed limit and I've taught her what the signs mean and that we have rules to follow. If a four year old can get it it's obviously not rocket science but people just don't want to stick to 60 I'm afraid. Only thing that will make people stick to a speed is an average speed check system but considering there isn't 1 fixed speed camera in St. Helens I doubt that'll be introduced, live in hope I suppose?!
Other councils have reduced the speed to 40 and are petitioning to reduce it to 30 in places

The person negative commented my post I hope you are not the next victim of a fatal RTA on that stretch of road

Drivers up and down the country constantly break the rules but do we just leave all of them to get on with it ? it would seem that folk of this town would prefer that

Drivers need to be responsible for their actions but they are allowed to get away with it, at least when they kill themselves they remove themselves from the gene pool
[quote][p][bold]cbol82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevelunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cbol82[/bold] wrote: What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?![/p][/quote]The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?[/p][/quote]The national speed limit for a road of this type is 70mph so yes it is a reduced speed. Reducing it to 50mph, petition for it to happen but unless people start following the rules overnight it won't make a blind bit of difference in my opinion. I live very close to this section of the road and drive it every day to take my daughter to nursery and she often shouts out when cars zoom passed us because we always do the speed limit and I've taught her what the signs mean and that we have rules to follow. If a four year old can get it it's obviously not rocket science but people just don't want to stick to 60 I'm afraid. Only thing that will make people stick to a speed is an average speed check system but considering there isn't 1 fixed speed camera in St. Helens I doubt that'll be introduced, live in hope I suppose?![/p][/quote]Other councils have reduced the speed to 40 and are petitioning to reduce it to 30 in places The person negative commented my post I hope you are not the next victim of a fatal RTA on that stretch of road Drivers up and down the country constantly break the rules but do we just leave all of them to get on with it ? it would seem that folk of this town would prefer that Drivers need to be responsible for their actions but they are allowed to get away with it, at least when they kill themselves they remove themselves from the gene pool stevelunt
  • Score: 1

8:16am Tue 15 Jul 14

cbol82 says...

stevelunt wrote:
cbol82 wrote:
stevelunt wrote:
cbol82 wrote:
What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?!
The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph

But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane

Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?
The national speed limit for a road of this type is 70mph so yes it is a reduced speed. Reducing it to 50mph, petition for it to happen but unless people start following the rules overnight it won't make a blind bit of difference in my opinion. I live very close to this section of the road and drive it every day to take my daughter to nursery and she often shouts out when cars zoom passed us because we always do the speed limit and I've taught her what the signs mean and that we have rules to follow. If a four year old can get it it's obviously not rocket science but people just don't want to stick to 60 I'm afraid. Only thing that will make people stick to a speed is an average speed check system but considering there isn't 1 fixed speed camera in St. Helens I doubt that'll be introduced, live in hope I suppose?!
Other councils have reduced the speed to 40 and are petitioning to reduce it to 30 in places

The person negative commented my post I hope you are not the next victim of a fatal RTA on that stretch of road

Drivers up and down the country constantly break the rules but do we just leave all of them to get on with it ? it would seem that folk of this town would prefer that

Drivers need to be responsible for their actions but they are allowed to get away with it, at least when they kill themselves they remove themselves from the gene pool
Wow Steve bit of a tyrant are you? Because somebody doesn't agree with a comment you've made you wish death upon them?! Jeez! As I said before, petition to have the speed limit reduced and let the idiots take care of themselves
[quote][p][bold]stevelunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cbol82[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevelunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cbol82[/bold] wrote: What do people suggest the council do? The speed has been restricted to 60mph but wreckless car drivers persistently break the limit, there are light jumper cameras but again people still jump red lights. It's a dual carriage way, what do you expect, speed humps and traffic calming measures like near schools?![/p][/quote]The speed hasn;'t been reduced to 60mph, it has always been 60mph But thinking about this, maybe it doe need reducing to 30 mph and making it single lane Yes that will cause longer traffic delays but if one person doesnt die then surely that has to be worth it ?[/p][/quote]The national speed limit for a road of this type is 70mph so yes it is a reduced speed. Reducing it to 50mph, petition for it to happen but unless people start following the rules overnight it won't make a blind bit of difference in my opinion. I live very close to this section of the road and drive it every day to take my daughter to nursery and she often shouts out when cars zoom passed us because we always do the speed limit and I've taught her what the signs mean and that we have rules to follow. If a four year old can get it it's obviously not rocket science but people just don't want to stick to 60 I'm afraid. Only thing that will make people stick to a speed is an average speed check system but considering there isn't 1 fixed speed camera in St. Helens I doubt that'll be introduced, live in hope I suppose?![/p][/quote]Other councils have reduced the speed to 40 and are petitioning to reduce it to 30 in places The person negative commented my post I hope you are not the next victim of a fatal RTA on that stretch of road Drivers up and down the country constantly break the rules but do we just leave all of them to get on with it ? it would seem that folk of this town would prefer that Drivers need to be responsible for their actions but they are allowed to get away with it, at least when they kill themselves they remove themselves from the gene pool[/p][/quote]Wow Steve bit of a tyrant are you? Because somebody doesn't agree with a comment you've made you wish death upon them?! Jeez! As I said before, petition to have the speed limit reduced and let the idiots take care of themselves cbol82
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Keva68 says...

Just get rid of the cameras on the lights it normally transpires to be someone slamming on when they see the lights on Amber so they don't get a fine.
So the safety measures cause the accidents not prevent them it's why they removed them off the motorways.
Just get rid of the cameras on the lights it normally transpires to be someone slamming on when they see the lights on Amber so they don't get a fine. So the safety measures cause the accidents not prevent them it's why they removed them off the motorways. Keva68
  • Score: 6

1:58pm Tue 15 Jul 14

moonman77 says...

I honestly think Stevelunt you are or wanting to live in utopia land, which of course doesnt exsits. People + Automobiles will always equal crashes (That you wish anyone who doesnt agree with you to be involved in) and unfortunately fatalities.
I'll reitarate what I said, its drivers that cause crashes. Not the roads.
I honestly think Stevelunt you are or wanting to live in utopia land, which of course doesnt exsits. People + Automobiles will always equal crashes (That you wish anyone who doesnt agree with you to be involved in) and unfortunately fatalities. I'll reitarate what I said, its drivers that cause crashes. Not the roads. moonman77
  • Score: 8

4:33pm Tue 15 Jul 14

lawman2004 says...

It was a car and a wagon involved just past the lights. I very much doubt whether driver speed will be shown to have been the cause of this accident, more likely just plain inattentiveness from one or both of the parties involved. The idea that roads would be a safe utopia just because every one is crawling along at 30mph is just laughable. Still, it keeps the self righteous nanny state admirers happy....
It was a car and a wagon involved just past the lights. I very much doubt whether driver speed will be shown to have been the cause of this accident, more likely just plain inattentiveness from one or both of the parties involved. The idea that roads would be a safe utopia just because every one is crawling along at 30mph is just laughable. Still, it keeps the self righteous nanny state admirers happy.... lawman2004
  • Score: 8

6:13pm Tue 15 Jul 14

stevelunt says...

LOL, I didnt wish detah on someone, I said hope they are not the next victim of a fatal RTA

Lawman2004 shall we abolish all speed limits then ? do you agree with the 20mph speed limits outside schools or is 40 mph a better speed ?

It is not about living in a utopia land, it is about people not getting seriously injured or killed through stupidity in driving

There seems to be accidents on that particular stretch of road almost daily, certianly weekly, only it seems no one is really bothered
LOL, I didnt wish detah on someone, I said hope they are not the next victim of a fatal RTA Lawman2004 shall we abolish all speed limits then ? do you agree with the 20mph speed limits outside schools or is 40 mph a better speed ? It is not about living in a utopia land, it is about people not getting seriously injured or killed through stupidity in driving There seems to be accidents on that particular stretch of road almost daily, certianly weekly, only it seems no one is really bothered stevelunt
  • Score: -4

6:31pm Tue 15 Jul 14

It's all a blur says...

I can't see anything that stevelunt has posted which hasn't got people's best interests.

I am also of the opinion that something needs doing on that road, because it appears to be an accident black spot, meaning someone, somewhere needs to take measures to make people more aware of the dangers in that area and hopefully people will take notice and act on that knowledge. There will always be idiot drivers, speeders, light jumpers etc, everyone always seems to be in a rush these days and it is killing people. As a driver, I hate being on the roads sometimes with the amount of idiots, pulling out of junctions or roundabouts and even reversing into main roads without looking, then there's the speeding lane weavers... on it goes.

People might not want speed humps and 30mph speed limits, but whatever is looked at and decided upon, surely it is worth it to save someone's life?
I can't see anything that stevelunt has posted which hasn't got people's best interests. I am also of the opinion that something needs doing on that road, because it appears to be an accident black spot, meaning someone, somewhere needs to take measures to make people more aware of the dangers in that area and hopefully people will take notice and act on that knowledge. There will always be idiot drivers, speeders, light jumpers etc, everyone always seems to be in a rush these days and it is killing people. As a driver, I hate being on the roads sometimes with the amount of idiots, pulling out of junctions or roundabouts and even reversing into main roads without looking, then there's the speeding lane weavers... on it goes. People might not want speed humps and 30mph speed limits, but whatever is looked at and decided upon, surely it is worth it to save someone's life? It's all a blur
  • Score: -4

10:01pm Tue 15 Jul 14

lawman2004 says...

20 mph limits outside schools .... some one please tell me why they operate 24/7, 365 days a year when schools don't ?
20 mph limits outside schools .... some one please tell me why they operate 24/7, 365 days a year when schools don't ? lawman2004
  • Score: 10

1:45pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Bill Bradbury says...

As an Advanced Motorist, I would advise all drivers to enrol as it certainly saved my life and my wife when someone jumped a red light at Haydock Island, (you are taught to be always alert for the unexpected even if you are on green).
Most accidents are caused by the rarely used charge of "Driving without due care and attention". Speed limits have little effect if people ignore them but Steve Lunt perhaps you should campaign for the return of someone walking in front of the car with a Red Flag. Accidents will always happen-the clue is in the word!!
As an Advanced Motorist, I would advise all drivers to enrol as it certainly saved my life and my wife when someone jumped a red light at Haydock Island, (you are taught to be always alert for the unexpected even if you are on green). Most accidents are caused by the rarely used charge of "Driving without due care and attention". Speed limits have little effect if people ignore them but Steve Lunt perhaps you should campaign for the return of someone walking in front of the car with a Red Flag. Accidents will always happen-the clue is in the word!! Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 3

8:50am Thu 17 Jul 14

Bill Bradbury says...

A programme on TV last night about the worst drivers illustrated well how the IAM advisers would improve all driving. It even introduced my to reading the Highway code again neglected since I first passed my test in 1962. It certainly saved my life by teaching me never to assume you have the right of way. Some idiot may differ-- and did.
A programme on TV last night about the worst drivers illustrated well how the IAM advisers would improve all driving. It even introduced my to reading the Highway code again neglected since I first passed my test in 1962. It certainly saved my life by teaching me never to assume you have the right of way. Some idiot may differ-- and did. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 3

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