St Helens postal workers object to delivering The Sun

St Helens postal workers object to delivering The Sun

St Helens postal workers object to delivering The Sun

First published in News

POSTAL union bosses and Royal Mail chiefs were due to hold talks this afternoon amid a growing row over the scheduled free delivery of The Sun newspaper in St Helens.

Arrangements had been made for postmen and women to deliver 22 million free copies of the tabloid’s World Cup edition around England today and on Friday.

But the publication will not be delivered to large parts of Merseyside where strong feelings of resentment are still held towards the newspaper due to its coverage of the Hillsborough tragedy 25 years ago.

Postal workers in Skelmersdale, West Lancashire had threatened to strike if they were told to deliver free copies of the newspaper.

On Tuesday the Communications Workers Union initially said that there had been no protests from workers in St Helens over delivering the publication.

But on Wednesday morning the position appeared to shift.

In a dramatic about turn 100 postmen and women met on Wednesday morning outside the St Helens delivery office gates and voted unanimously not to deliver The Sun, one postman, who asked not be named, told the Star.

He said every one of the postal workers who met for a show of hands gathering voted to refuse to deliver it.

Carl Webb, North West regional manager of the CWU said: “There was a meeting of the staff who raised concerns about delivering the publication.

“There are talks taking place with union reps in regards to this in line with the agreement that anyone with individual concerns can raise them.”

The Royal Mail on Tuesday said that the exclusion would only apply to addresses within the Liverpool postcode area.

However, yesterday a Royal Mail spokesman told the Star: “If people have strong objections we are looking at them individually.”

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4:12pm Wed 11 Jun 14

suttonboy says...

Could the distributor not just drop them straight off at the paper recycling plant? Save everyone the trouble.
Could the distributor not just drop them straight off at the paper recycling plant? Save everyone the trouble. suttonboy
  • Score: 17

5:29pm Wed 11 Jun 14

anthonywilson says...

If it ends if being delivered through my door its being cut into squares and placed in the smallest room in the house because that's all its good for.
If it ends if being delivered through my door its being cut into squares and placed in the smallest room in the house because that's all its good for. anthonywilson
  • Score: 7

5:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

craig30 says...

From what I have read on here and the echo website, this refusal isnt based around football, it seems to be an extra workload outside on their normal deliveries they seem to be unhappy about
From what I have read on here and the echo website, this refusal isnt based around football, it seems to be an extra workload outside on their normal deliveries they seem to be unhappy about craig30
  • Score: -4

6:27pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Justice' Revenge says...

This is nothing to do with workloads, its about the distribution of a revolting rag to those who don't want it.
The best way to deal with this if you get one through your door is pop it in an envelope or wrap it up and address it to 3 Thomas More Square, London E98 1XY Remember not to put a stamp on it as the sun will then have to pay postage.
This is nothing to do with workloads, its about the distribution of a revolting rag to those who don't want it. The best way to deal with this if you get one through your door is pop it in an envelope or wrap it up and address it to 3 Thomas More Square, London E98 1XY Remember not to put a stamp on it as the sun will then have to pay postage. Justice' Revenge
  • Score: 10

7:27pm Wed 11 Jun 14

mjo says...

Just because they have strong feelings against The Sun should not allow them to censor the mail that they are paid to deliver. I have every sympathy with the victims of Hillsborough (I am a Man U fan). I feel that Tony Blair is a war criminal but if the labour party pay to have their propaganda posted then it should be posted. Will posties stop delivering EDL literature or other such filth. I don't want to read The Sun but that is MY decision not my postman's.
Just because they have strong feelings against The Sun should not allow them to censor the mail that they are paid to deliver. I have every sympathy with the victims of Hillsborough (I am a Man U fan). I feel that Tony Blair is a war criminal but if the labour party pay to have their propaganda posted then it should be posted. Will posties stop delivering EDL literature or other such filth. I don't want to read The Sun but that is MY decision not my postman's. mjo
  • Score: 8

8:08pm Wed 11 Jun 14

studentjournalist says...

Send it back to them with no postage
Send it back to them with no postage studentjournalist
  • Score: 0

11:54pm Wed 11 Jun 14

windows says...

If you don't want to read it throw it away when it's delivered. Just don't try to impose and dictate to others your actions or views.
If you don't want to read it throw it away when it's delivered. Just don't try to impose and dictate to others your actions or views. windows
  • Score: 7

8:10am Thu 12 Jun 14

itme says...

I'm expecting some literature from the conservative party , will the union allow it to be delivered ? Perhaps they could publish a list of what they will or will not allow us to read.
I'm expecting some literature from the conservative party , will the union allow it to be delivered ? Perhaps they could publish a list of what they will or will not allow us to read. itme
  • Score: 3

9:05am Thu 12 Jun 14

kjd161 says...

Not all of the 96 came from Liverpool. So why is the Post Office applying the exclusion to Liverpool post codes only? This protest is about a rag which slandered the 96 and ALL the other supporters, regardless of where they were from.
Not all of the 96 came from Liverpool. So why is the Post Office applying the exclusion to Liverpool post codes only? This protest is about a rag which slandered the 96 and ALL the other supporters, regardless of where they were from. kjd161
  • Score: 4

9:18am Thu 12 Jun 14

mattmxl says...

What about the people in the North West that do want a copy of it for free? I'm totally with "windows" on this one! Don't want it, throw it out, but don't prevent those that do want it from having it just because others don't! If you apply that ideology to everything in society, nobody would ever be allowed to do anything.
What about the people in the North West that do want a copy of it for free? I'm totally with "windows" on this one! Don't want it, throw it out, but don't prevent those that do want it from having it just because others don't! If you apply that ideology to everything in society, nobody would ever be allowed to do anything. mattmxl
  • Score: 8

9:48am Thu 12 Jun 14

Bill Bradbury says...

anthonywilson wrote:
If it ends if being delivered through my door its being cut into squares and placed in the smallest room in the house because that's all its good for.
Sorry Anthony it is not even fit for lavvy paper!
[quote][p][bold]anthonywilson[/bold] wrote: If it ends if being delivered through my door its being cut into squares and placed in the smallest room in the house because that's all its good for.[/p][/quote]Sorry Anthony it is not even fit for lavvy paper! Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 6

9:51am Thu 12 Jun 14

Bill Bradbury says...

PS I wish they would stop delivering my bills.
PS I wish they would stop delivering my bills. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 8

10:50am Thu 12 Jun 14

keepitreel says...

so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble. keepitreel
  • Score: -1

11:25am Thu 12 Jun 14

Bill Bradbury says...

keepitreel wrote:
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
No just a Union and many other decent people recalling the slur the Sun made over Hillsborough and the fight for justice parents had to endure.
[quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]No just a Union and many other decent people recalling the slur the Sun made over Hillsborough and the fight for justice parents had to endure. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 4

2:35pm Thu 12 Jun 14

MrBenggo says...

Bill B.,
With you all the way,well said.
Bill B., With you all the way,well said. MrBenggo
  • Score: 2

3:06pm Thu 12 Jun 14

keepitreel says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
keepitreel wrote:
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
No just a Union and many other decent people recalling the slur the Sun made over Hillsborough and the fight for justice parents had to endure.
so you think it is ok BILL for the post men to deside WHO gets the paper,what about the junk mail they push through my door its just the same ,they are paid to deliver what they get told to like it or lump it,and if they are taking the moral high ground will they stop watching their SKY TV packages or the sport in the pub etc because they are owned by the same person,when we have postal workers deciding what i get delivered it is a scandal and those that dont deliver it should be sacked.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]No just a Union and many other decent people recalling the slur the Sun made over Hillsborough and the fight for justice parents had to endure.[/p][/quote]so you think it is ok BILL for the post men to deside WHO gets the paper,what about the junk mail they push through my door its just the same ,they are paid to deliver what they get told to like it or lump it,and if they are taking the moral high ground will they stop watching their SKY TV packages or the sport in the pub etc because they are owned by the same person,when we have postal workers deciding what i get delivered it is a scandal and those that dont deliver it should be sacked. keepitreel
  • Score: 5

3:26pm Thu 12 Jun 14

spudz48 says...

keepitreel wrote:
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.
[quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality. spudz48
  • Score: 2

4:01pm Thu 12 Jun 14

jumperr says...

This might spread too phone call s that we don't want and anything else,sticky wicket in the long run .
This might spread too phone call s that we don't want and anything else,sticky wicket in the long run . jumperr
  • Score: -1

6:53pm Thu 12 Jun 14

keepitreel says...

spudz48 wrote:
keepitreel wrote:
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.
is the free paper meant to be delivered to my address,are they refusing for some reason,can you BUY this paper in LIVERPOOL who delivers it to the shops has no post man EVER bought this paper in the past 25 years,what next for the posty to decide they dont like and refuse to deliver,so YES if they are refusing to deliver something i should be getting on a moral (theirs or the unions) point it is censorship.
[quote][p][bold]spudz48[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.[/p][/quote]is the free paper meant to be delivered to my address,are they refusing for some reason,can you BUY this paper in LIVERPOOL who delivers it to the shops has no post man EVER bought this paper in the past 25 years,what next for the posty to decide they dont like and refuse to deliver,so YES if they are refusing to deliver something i should be getting on a moral (theirs or the unions) point it is censorship. keepitreel
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Thu 12 Jun 14

othervictim says...

If this junk mail arrives through your letterbox and you do not want it then take it to the nearest Royal Mail Postbox and post it and let Royal mail sort it out, if 22 million householders did this then Royal Mail may think again about this sort of promotion. I have informed Royal Mail that I do not want junk mail at my address and most of the time it works.
If this junk mail arrives through your letterbox and you do not want it then take it to the nearest Royal Mail Postbox and post it and let Royal mail sort it out, if 22 million householders did this then Royal Mail may think again about this sort of promotion. I have informed Royal Mail that I do not want junk mail at my address and most of the time it works. othervictim
  • Score: 2

8:51pm Thu 12 Jun 14

barrie timpson says...

I see Ed Milliband has been pictured holding up a copy of todays free sun. Real man of the people.

http://blogs.spectat
or.co.uk/coffeehouse
/2014/06/coffee-shot
-ed-miliband-endorse
s-the-sunand-looks-i
ncredibly-weird/
I see Ed Milliband has been pictured holding up a copy of todays free sun. Real man of the people. http://blogs.spectat or.co.uk/coffeehouse /2014/06/coffee-shot -ed-miliband-endorse s-the-sunand-looks-i ncredibly-weird/ barrie timpson
  • Score: 0

11:32pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Bill Bradbury says...

The Sun is a Tory comic.
The Sun is a Tory comic. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 2

11:37pm Thu 12 Jun 14

ImTopMan says...

I'm a diehard Evertonian and a long term season ticket holder and fully support this rejection of that paper. It needlessly kicked the families of the 96 when they were down.

I back the families to get justice for the terrible events of 1989 so would never even have a free copy of that particular newspaper.

Thank god we in St Helens never got t stuffed through our doors.

JFT96.
I'm a diehard Evertonian and a long term season ticket holder and fully support this rejection of that paper. It needlessly kicked the families of the 96 when they were down. I back the families to get justice for the terrible events of 1989 so would never even have a free copy of that particular newspaper. Thank god we in St Helens never got t stuffed through our doors. JFT96. ImTopMan
  • Score: 4

7:28am Fri 13 Jun 14

barrie timpson says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
The Sun is a Tory comic.
Which the Labour leader is happy to promote. Have you not seen the pictures?
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: The Sun is a Tory comic.[/p][/quote]Which the Labour leader is happy to promote. Have you not seen the pictures? barrie timpson
  • Score: 4

9:01am Fri 13 Jun 14

spudz48 says...

keepitreel wrote:
spudz48 wrote:
keepitreel wrote:
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.
is the free paper meant to be delivered to my address,are they refusing for some reason,can you BUY this paper in LIVERPOOL who delivers it to the shops has no post man EVER bought this paper in the past 25 years,what next for the posty to decide they dont like and refuse to deliver,so YES if they are refusing to deliver something i should be getting on a moral (theirs or the unions) point it is censorship.
Some postmen were threatened if they delivered this paper so on a health and saftey issue were advised not to deliver it, so I am lead to believe. Nothing to do with censorship, so climb down off your high horse, get your facts straight and give the postie a break
[quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spudz48[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.[/p][/quote]is the free paper meant to be delivered to my address,are they refusing for some reason,can you BUY this paper in LIVERPOOL who delivers it to the shops has no post man EVER bought this paper in the past 25 years,what next for the posty to decide they dont like and refuse to deliver,so YES if they are refusing to deliver something i should be getting on a moral (theirs or the unions) point it is censorship.[/p][/quote]Some postmen were threatened if they delivered this paper so on a health and saftey issue were advised not to deliver it, so I am lead to believe. Nothing to do with censorship, so climb down off your high horse, get your facts straight and give the postie a break spudz48
  • Score: 3

6:40pm Fri 13 Jun 14

keepitreel says...

spudz48 wrote:
keepitreel wrote:
spudz48 wrote:
keepitreel wrote:
so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.
Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.
is the free paper meant to be delivered to my address,are they refusing for some reason,can you BUY this paper in LIVERPOOL who delivers it to the shops has no post man EVER bought this paper in the past 25 years,what next for the posty to decide they dont like and refuse to deliver,so YES if they are refusing to deliver something i should be getting on a moral (theirs or the unions) point it is censorship.
Some postmen were threatened if they delivered this paper so on a health and saftey issue were advised not to deliver it, so I am lead to believe. Nothing to do with censorship, so climb down off your high horse, get your facts straight and give the postie a break
who threatened them,were is the evidence or is it just hear say,who is to say they will decide NOT to deliver things in the future,i could not care less about this free paper it is the principal,they have chosen to take a stand against something that not everyone agrees with and therefore have withdrawn their labour,it is not their decision to pick and chose what they deliver,their job is to deliver what their company has been paid to.
[quote][p][bold]spudz48[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spudz48[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keepitreel[/bold] wrote: so now we have censorship by the post man,will they stop delivering all things they have objection too,just do the job your paid to do deliver what your told,or is this just another union trying to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]Postmen censoring your mail? You need to get a grip on reality.[/p][/quote]is the free paper meant to be delivered to my address,are they refusing for some reason,can you BUY this paper in LIVERPOOL who delivers it to the shops has no post man EVER bought this paper in the past 25 years,what next for the posty to decide they dont like and refuse to deliver,so YES if they are refusing to deliver something i should be getting on a moral (theirs or the unions) point it is censorship.[/p][/quote]Some postmen were threatened if they delivered this paper so on a health and saftey issue were advised not to deliver it, so I am lead to believe. Nothing to do with censorship, so climb down off your high horse, get your facts straight and give the postie a break[/p][/quote]who threatened them,were is the evidence or is it just hear say,who is to say they will decide NOT to deliver things in the future,i could not care less about this free paper it is the principal,they have chosen to take a stand against something that not everyone agrees with and therefore have withdrawn their labour,it is not their decision to pick and chose what they deliver,their job is to deliver what their company has been paid to. keepitreel
  • Score: 2

2:47pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Bill Bradbury says...

barrie timpson wrote:
Bill Bradbury wrote:
The Sun is a Tory comic.
Which the Labour leader is happy to promote. Have you not seen the pictures?
Yes it is still a Tory comic and Ed, together with the other party leaders, is supporting England. If you cannot make that difference just to have another go at my Party leader then what can I expect?
Like us all and suspect you Barrie, we all do stupid things at times which can lead to us being either misinterpreted or misrepresented,

As we are both regular contributors to this comment site we should recognise that familiar scenario!!
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: The Sun is a Tory comic.[/p][/quote]Which the Labour leader is happy to promote. Have you not seen the pictures?[/p][/quote]Yes it is still a Tory comic and Ed, together with the other party leaders, is supporting England. If you cannot make that difference just to have another go at my Party leader then what can I expect? Like us all and suspect you Barrie, we all do stupid things at times which can lead to us being either misinterpreted or misrepresented, As we are both regular contributors to this comment site we should recognise that familiar scenario!! Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 2

11:50am Sun 15 Jun 14

keepitreel says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
barrie timpson wrote:
Bill Bradbury wrote:
The Sun is a Tory comic.
Which the Labour leader is happy to promote. Have you not seen the pictures?
Yes it is still a Tory comic and Ed, together with the other party leaders, is supporting England. If you cannot make that difference just to have another go at my Party leader then what can I expect?
Like us all and suspect you Barrie, we all do stupid things at times which can lead to us being either misinterpreted or misrepresented,

As we are both regular contributors to this comment site we should recognise that familiar scenario!!
funny how we never had a photo of MR CAMERON holding the paper then BILL think EDD better get some more clued up backroom boys before he puts his size 9's in it again,this paper moves it political views from left to right depending on the state of play,so as to call it a torie comic is wrong,anyway my postie has just delivered my copy of the NEW STATESMEN so bye for now.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: The Sun is a Tory comic.[/p][/quote]Which the Labour leader is happy to promote. Have you not seen the pictures?[/p][/quote]Yes it is still a Tory comic and Ed, together with the other party leaders, is supporting England. If you cannot make that difference just to have another go at my Party leader then what can I expect? Like us all and suspect you Barrie, we all do stupid things at times which can lead to us being either misinterpreted or misrepresented, As we are both regular contributors to this comment site we should recognise that familiar scenario!![/p][/quote]funny how we never had a photo of MR CAMERON holding the paper then BILL think EDD better get some more clued up backroom boys before he puts his size 9's in it again,this paper moves it political views from left to right depending on the state of play,so as to call it a torie comic is wrong,anyway my postie has just delivered my copy of the NEW STATESMEN so bye for now. keepitreel
  • Score: -2

8:12am Wed 18 Jun 14

ollie70 says...

Of course The Sun's reporting of Hillsborough is being used as a pretext for not delivering the paper, and avoiding more work. I would probably do the same. Most postmen probably read The Sun, and don't know/have forgotten about the paper's reporting of the tragedy which was 25 years ago.
Of course The Sun's reporting of Hillsborough is being used as a pretext for not delivering the paper, and avoiding more work. I would probably do the same. Most postmen probably read The Sun, and don't know/have forgotten about the paper's reporting of the tragedy which was 25 years ago. ollie70
  • Score: 0

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