Dangerous Dogs to be destroyed after police seizures

Dangerous Dogs destroyed after police seizures

Dangerous Dogs destroyed after police seizures

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POLICE have today seized 15 dangerous dogs from owners who have breached conditions set down by the courts.

The owners had initially been granted leave by the courts to keep the animals.

But police say the dogs will be humanely destroyed after owners did not adhere to a set of nine conditions imposed by the courts.

The operation took place across the region - including St Helens, Merseyside Police said.

Across Merseyside there are 247 owners of dogs who are exempted under Dangerous Dogs legislation. Of these 130 are in breach of their conditions.

Chief Inspector Chris Gibson from the Matrix Serious Organised Crime Uniformed Services wing, said: "As a result of the failure to adhere to the exemption conditions of the court and other aggravating factors, we identified and prioritised 42 of those dogs as a danger to the public and have taken the required action this morning.

"So far 15 dogs have been seized as part of the operation. The dogs seized by officers today will be humanely destroyed.”

Since 2007 two children have been killed by pit bulls, classed as dangerous dogs.

St Helens five-year-old Ellie Lawrenson was killed January 2007 and four-year-old John Paul Massey in November 2009.

Police carried out research to determine the risks posed to communities by the dangerous dogs, including whether their owners had links to organised crime or if children were living in the house where the animals were kept. CI Gibson added: "Let’s be clear, these dogs pose a danger to the public, as well as to the families where they are housed.

"Invariably the people who keep these dogs, keep them as a status symbol and are not responsible dog owners.

"I’m sure that if you were to ask members of the public there aren’t many who would be happy living next door to someone who owns one of these dogs and does not take their responsibilities seriously, and I’m sure there aren’t many who would be happy to let their children, or grandchildren play out in the street if one of these dogs was in the vicinity.

"These dogs are fighting dogs, they are not designed to be family pets.

"Where owners have made applications to the court and have been granted an exemption it is up to that dog owner to adhere to the conditions and prove responsible dog ownership.

"If those owners are not prepared to abide by the conditions imposed, we have no alternative but to take the action we have undertaken today to keep our communities safe.”

The dog owners had been sent a letter from the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs warning them that their dog may be destroyed if they breached the conditions. Police stressed they want to make it clear they don’t want to demonise all dogs, or their owners.

Merseyside’s Police Commissioner Jane Kennedy said: "Sadly here on Merseyside we have seen the devastating consequences of what can happen when irresponsible dog owners refuse to control their animals.

“Nobody should suffer serious injury or lose their life because an individual has failed to control an already banned breed of dog.”

"We have a responsibility to act to keep our children and grandchildren safe and when owners have failed to obey the orders of a court the force has no choice but to step in and remove these dangerous dogs from our community.”

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1:00pm Thu 27 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

Frankly, any dog not on a lead is a dangerous dog and by lead, I don't mean those stupid expanding leads that allow the dog to be 20 feet away from the owner. Let's hope the round up continues regardless of breed
Frankly, any dog not on a lead is a dangerous dog and by lead, I don't mean those stupid expanding leads that allow the dog to be 20 feet away from the owner. Let's hope the round up continues regardless of breed smith&weston
  • Score: -16

2:41pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.
If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners. mrsrudebox
  • Score: 34

2:56pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

CI Gibson needs to apoligise for that statement!!!!
CI Gibson needs to apoligise for that statement!!!! mrsrudebox
  • Score: 10

2:59pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

It just shows what an ignorant and uneducated person CI Gibson is by making the statement that the dogs are a danger to the public and the families that they live with. I would have expected a 'paper' that is reporting this to at least have challenged him on this when the dogs have to be proved not a danger to the public to be placed on the EDR. Or is the paper uneducated on the stories it publishes???
It just shows what an ignorant and uneducated person CI Gibson is by making the statement that the dogs are a danger to the public and the families that they live with. I would have expected a 'paper' that is reporting this to at least have challenged him on this when the dogs have to be proved not a danger to the public to be placed on the EDR. Or is the paper uneducated on the stories it publishes??? mrsrudebox
  • Score: 14

3:23pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Lestat1977 says...

Made me feel a little sick reading that. They should come down a lot harder on the owners afterall I've never seen nor heard of a dangerous puppy. Waste of life, very sad.
Made me feel a little sick reading that. They should come down a lot harder on the owners afterall I've never seen nor heard of a dangerous puppy. Waste of life, very sad. Lestat1977
  • Score: 9

3:27pm Thu 27 Mar 14

DenJo24 says...

Before such sweeping statements can be made about the dogs its worth remembering that third party liability insurance for exempted dogs MUST be kept up to date. Defaulting on your insurance can cost your dogs life. It can cost as little as £25 per year to insure your dog, which is a LEGAL requirement and one that you agreed to before going to court. So many owners are defaulting and the authorities WILL act as this story shows. Just another reason why more has to be done to promote and enforce responsible dog ownership
Before such sweeping statements can be made about the dogs its worth remembering that third party liability insurance for exempted dogs MUST be kept up to date. Defaulting on your insurance can cost your dogs life. It can cost as little as £25 per year to insure your dog, which is a LEGAL requirement and one that you agreed to before going to court. So many owners are defaulting and the authorities WILL act as this story shows. Just another reason why more has to be done to promote and enforce responsible dog ownership DenJo24
  • Score: 12

3:57pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Keva68 says...

mrsrudebox wrote:
If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.
I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?
[quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.[/p][/quote]I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this? Keva68
  • Score: -5

4:05pm Thu 27 Mar 14

DenJo24 says...

Keva68 wrote:
mrsrudebox wrote:
If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.
I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?
Good point!
[quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.[/p][/quote]I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?[/p][/quote]Good point! DenJo24
  • Score: -2

4:07pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

Keva68 wrote:
mrsrudebox wrote:
If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.
I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?
Less likely as it has proved it is not a danger to the public, In a court of law, after rigorous temperament testing for food/fear/animal/hum
an/shock aggression! Other conditions are that they are muzzled when in a public place (which includes private motor vehicles) and on a leash at all times by a person 16 years of age or over. They must also have insurance. The fact that they have gone through all this testing in order to be placed on the EDR pretty much says to me that they are less likely to bite than the average family pet that has not had to go through this process. If they at any time show aggression during the testing they would fail the test and would not be added to the EDR, and would therfore be destroyed.
[quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.[/p][/quote]I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?[/p][/quote]Less likely as it has proved it is not a danger to the public, In a court of law, after rigorous temperament testing for food/fear/animal/hum an/shock aggression! Other conditions are that they are muzzled when in a public place (which includes private motor vehicles) and on a leash at all times by a person 16 years of age or over. They must also have insurance. The fact that they have gone through all this testing in order to be placed on the EDR pretty much says to me that they are less likely to bite than the average family pet that has not had to go through this process. If they at any time show aggression during the testing they would fail the test and would not be added to the EDR, and would therfore be destroyed. mrsrudebox
  • Score: 9

4:15pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Saintinexile says...

But how is i gonna luk ard wivout me dog innit
But how is i gonna luk ard wivout me dog innit Saintinexile
  • Score: 1

4:43pm Thu 27 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

A tragedy that this noble breed has fallen into the hands of the sub human.

For people like me who spent years taking time and care to breed from only the best that the black country had to offer , it's so sad.

Then again the man who got me into the dogs myself did forewarn - "popularity will be the end of this breed".

I could go on and on about why this is wrong from start to finish and blame crufts , sub humans , inept Councillors , but the damage is already done.
A tragedy that this noble breed has fallen into the hands of the sub human. For people like me who spent years taking time and care to breed from only the best that the black country had to offer , it's so sad. Then again the man who got me into the dogs myself did forewarn - "popularity will be the end of this breed". I could go on and on about why this is wrong from start to finish and blame crufts , sub humans , inept Councillors , but the damage is already done. barrie timpson
  • Score: 6

5:28pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Keva68 says...

mrsrudebox wrote:
Keva68 wrote:
mrsrudebox wrote:
If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.
I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?
Less likely as it has proved it is not a danger to the public, In a court of law, after rigorous temperament testing for food/fear/animal/hum

an/shock aggression! Other conditions are that they are muzzled when in a public place (which includes private motor vehicles) and on a leash at all times by a person 16 years of age or over. They must also have insurance. The fact that they have gone through all this testing in order to be placed on the EDR pretty much says to me that they are less likely to bite than the average family pet that has not had to go through this process. If they at any time show aggression during the testing they would fail the test and would not be added to the EDR, and would therfore be destroyed.
Right so as the story says the owners have not abided by the rules you have stated therefore they have been taken off them to be put down.
It's a shame that the owners don't do as they are told but I'm afraid the only answer is to destroy the dog.
So hats off to the police for taking action before someone is injured by the dogs.
[quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.[/p][/quote]I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?[/p][/quote]Less likely as it has proved it is not a danger to the public, In a court of law, after rigorous temperament testing for food/fear/animal/hum an/shock aggression! Other conditions are that they are muzzled when in a public place (which includes private motor vehicles) and on a leash at all times by a person 16 years of age or over. They must also have insurance. The fact that they have gone through all this testing in order to be placed on the EDR pretty much says to me that they are less likely to bite than the average family pet that has not had to go through this process. If they at any time show aggression during the testing they would fail the test and would not be added to the EDR, and would therfore be destroyed.[/p][/quote]Right so as the story says the owners have not abided by the rules you have stated therefore they have been taken off them to be put down. It's a shame that the owners don't do as they are told but I'm afraid the only answer is to destroy the dog. So hats off to the police for taking action before someone is injured by the dogs. Keva68
  • Score: 2

8:01pm Thu 27 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status.

Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers
We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (01442 242999) or DDA Watch (0844 844 2990) immediately.
Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status. Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (01442 242999) or DDA Watch (0844 844 2990) immediately. mrsrudebox
  • Score: 4

12:15am Fri 28 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

Keva68 wrote:
mrsrudebox wrote:
If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.
I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?
Judging by the negative arrows, it seems the dog must know it's been declared a non biter and therefor won't bother. I'm not on the register so i take it i will be allowed to bite the owners of dangerous dogs ?
[quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: If the dogs have been placed on the exempt register, then they are NOT a danger to anyone as they have had to pass very rigorous temperament testing and they have been deemed as not a danger to the public! They are not dangerous!!!! They have proved themselves. Once again, dogs that have already been through the court system to save their lives, have been tragically failed by the very people that fought to save them in the first place, why should the dog lose it's life because of the failure of a human!. Its about time the Government acted to educate dog owners.[/p][/quote]I see so if you have your dog on the exemption register it won't bite anyone ,is the dog aware of this?[/p][/quote]Judging by the negative arrows, it seems the dog must know it's been declared a non biter and therefor won't bother. I'm not on the register so i take it i will be allowed to bite the owners of dangerous dogs ? smith&weston
  • Score: 1

9:05am Fri 28 Mar 14

Keva68 says...

mrsrudebox wrote:
Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status.

Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers
We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (I should imagine this will involve legal aid ,again they broke the conditions and are irresponsible and deserve to lose the FIGHTING dog on the end of the lead.
It's equivalent to someone having a gun licence and not abiding by the conditions they lose it.
[quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status. Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (I should imagine this will involve legal aid ,again they broke the conditions and are irresponsible and deserve to lose the FIGHTING dog on the end of the lead. It's equivalent to someone having a gun licence and not abiding by the conditions they lose it. Keva68
  • Score: 1

1:29pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Keva68 says...

Keva68 wrote:
mrsrudebox wrote:
Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status.

Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers
We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (I should imagine this will involve legal aid ,again they broke the conditions and are irresponsible and deserve to lose the FIGHTING dog on the end of the lead.
It's equivalent to someone having a gun licence and not abiding by the conditions they lose it.I should imagine this will involve legal aid ,again they broke the conditions and are irresponsible and deserve to lose the FIGHTING dog on the end of the lead.
It's equivalent to someone having a gun licence and not abiding by the conditions they lose it.
[quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status. Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (I should imagine this will involve legal aid ,again they broke the conditions and are irresponsible and deserve to lose the FIGHTING dog on the end of the lead. It's equivalent to someone having a gun licence and not abiding by the conditions they lose it.[/p][/quote]I should imagine this will involve legal aid ,again they broke the conditions and are irresponsible and deserve to lose the FIGHTING dog on the end of the lead. It's equivalent to someone having a gun licence and not abiding by the conditions they lose it. Keva68
  • Score: -1

2:34pm Fri 28 Mar 14

kjd161 says...

mrsrudebox wrote:
Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status.

Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers
We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (01442 242999) or DDA Watch (0844 844 2990) immediately.
Aye Aye. Someone with a fin on their back can smell money a mile off.
[quote][p][bold]mrsrudebox[/bold] wrote: Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers's status. Wheldon Law - Specialist Canine and Criminal Lawyers We have learned today that Merseyside police are seizing registered dogs where their 3rd party insurance has lapsed. The police say they are not going to go to court and will simply put the dogs down. If your dog has been/is seized by Merseyside police because the insurance has lapsed please get in touch with us (01442 242999) or DDA Watch (0844 844 2990) immediately.[/p][/quote]Aye Aye. Someone with a fin on their back can smell money a mile off. kjd161
  • Score: 5

9:13pm Fri 28 Mar 14

sunshineandshowers says...

Shame they can't just put their owners down
Shame they can't just put their owners down sunshineandshowers
  • Score: 4

10:50am Sat 29 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

£300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.
£300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm. smith&weston
  • Score: 0

11:53am Sat 29 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

smith&weston wrote:
£300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.
It clearly states that it is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier! Can you not read?
[quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: £300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.[/p][/quote]It clearly states that it is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier! Can you not read? mrsrudebox
  • Score: -1

1:05pm Sat 29 Mar 14

fonsboy says...

As usual the powers that be have got it wrong it wrong , its the scum owners who should be put down .
As usual the powers that be have got it wrong it wrong , its the scum owners who should be put down . fonsboy
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Sat 29 Mar 14

fonsboy says...

fonsboy wrote:
As usual the powers that be have got it wrong it wrong , its the scum owners who should be put down .
Please excuse my stutter .
[quote][p][bold]fonsboy[/bold] wrote: As usual the powers that be have got it wrong it wrong , its the scum owners who should be put down .[/p][/quote]Please excuse my stutter . fonsboy
  • Score: 0

1:14pm Sat 29 Mar 14

fonsboy says...

smith&weston wrote:
£300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.
A-ole & I don`t me the dog , I had a Staffie just the same as the one in the photo & he was absolutely brilliant . He was my best mate broke my heart when he went to the great kennel in the sky .
[quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: £300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.[/p][/quote]A-ole & I don`t me the dog , I had a Staffie just the same as the one in the photo & he was absolutely brilliant . He was my best mate broke my heart when he went to the great kennel in the sky . fonsboy
  • Score: 0

2:12pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Keva68 says...

fonsboy wrote:
smith&weston wrote:
£300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.
A-ole & I don`t me the dog , I had a Staffie just the same as the one in the photo & he was absolutely brilliant . He was my best mate broke my heart when he went to the great kennel in the sky .
Quite a few years ago having a stafie wasn't a problem ,it seems every time I see one now on the other end of the lead is society's problem.
The breed are purchased by all the simple folk in life and that's why dogs homes are full of them ,couldn't agree more introduce an expensive licence.
[quote][p][bold]fonsboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: £300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.[/p][/quote]A-ole & I don`t me the dog , I had a Staffie just the same as the one in the photo & he was absolutely brilliant . He was my best mate broke my heart when he went to the great kennel in the sky .[/p][/quote]Quite a few years ago having a stafie wasn't a problem ,it seems every time I see one now on the other end of the lead is society's problem. The breed are purchased by all the simple folk in life and that's why dogs homes are full of them ,couldn't agree more introduce an expensive licence. Keva68
  • Score: 3

3:22pm Sat 29 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

The main problem is this "pit bull type". What they mean by that is something that doesn't look like the kennel clubs barrel with little legs dogs.

Irish staffords? Another misnomer - Ireland is not in Staffordshire or vice versa , what we see from the dogs in Ireland , is that they have been kept to the standard that they should be - tall agile and lithe. I'm not knocking the little staffords - handsome is as handsome does , but don't punish people for having them how they should be.

I had a great dog from a guy called Tony Lee in Ireland , what a dog - could climb trees and everything, lived until she was 16 , lived with other dogs , cats kids etc etc never a problem. She'd be in trouble now for being a "pit bull type".

One of the main suspects in this witch hunt , is the kennel club - they should face animal cruelty charges for what they have done to breeds. Look at today's bull dog , the poor thing can't even breathe , let alone fight a bull!
They won't recognize the Irish Stafford as a breed , ironically because they can't breed them like that - how they are supposed to be.
The main problem is this "pit bull type". What they mean by that is something that doesn't look like the kennel clubs barrel with little legs dogs. Irish staffords? Another misnomer - Ireland is not in Staffordshire or vice versa , what we see from the dogs in Ireland , is that they have been kept to the standard that they should be - tall agile and lithe. I'm not knocking the little staffords - handsome is as handsome does , but don't punish people for having them how they should be. I had a great dog from a guy called Tony Lee in Ireland , what a dog - could climb trees and everything, lived until she was 16 , lived with other dogs , cats kids etc etc never a problem. She'd be in trouble now for being a "pit bull type". One of the main suspects in this witch hunt , is the kennel club - they should face animal cruelty charges for what they have done to breeds. Look at today's bull dog , the poor thing can't even breathe , let alone fight a bull! They won't recognize the Irish Stafford as a breed , ironically because they can't breed them like that - how they are supposed to be. barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

7:26pm Sat 29 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

Every one is quick to blame the owners. This they have done for many years. As clearly there is been no change in the attitude of dog owners towards those that don't share their passion for machines that turn food in to poop and do little else, they, the owners, must be addressed by law and restricted in what they can own and breed. After all, we aren't allowed to have guns because we can't be trusted yet we can have killing machines with not so much as a 2/6d licence.
Every one is quick to blame the owners. This they have done for many years. As clearly there is been no change in the attitude of dog owners towards those that don't share their passion for machines that turn food in to poop and do little else, they, the owners, must be addressed by law and restricted in what they can own and breed. After all, we aren't allowed to have guns because we can't be trusted yet we can have killing machines with not so much as a 2/6d licence. smith&weston
  • Score: -1

10:14pm Sat 29 Mar 14

mrsrudebox says...

smith&weston wrote:
£300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.
http://www.kentnews.
co.uk/news/what_anim
als_kill_the_most_hu
mans_in_the_uk_1_123
6485

im stooping to other people's levels now, but which cows are we gonna kill? the brown ones or the black and white ones???? They also carry cjd and tb...... oh no sorry thats the badgers and now cats????

and let's not forget that all black men.....
or all scousers......
[quote][p][bold]smith&weston[/bold] wrote: £300 a year licence might just curb some of these owners and make them think twice about the need to own them in the first place. See from todays Star that another pit bull style dog has escaped from it's owner and gone missing in the Carr Mill area. Lets hope they find it before it before it gets the chance to do some body some real harm.[/p][/quote]http://www.kentnews. co.uk/news/what_anim als_kill_the_most_hu mans_in_the_uk_1_123 6485 im stooping to other people's levels now, but which cows are we gonna kill? the brown ones or the black and white ones???? They also carry cjd and tb...... oh no sorry thats the badgers and now cats???? and let's not forget that all black men..... or all scousers...... mrsrudebox
  • Score: -1

9:46am Mon 31 Mar 14

upstart says...

I could weep for your animals, This is all about money, using animals as breeding machines to sell, talk about slavery not love, certainly no respect.
I could weep for your animals, This is all about money, using animals as breeding machines to sell, talk about slavery not love, certainly no respect. upstart
  • Score: 1

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