St Helens' community shopping centres set for £500,000 investment

Local shopping centres are desribed by St Helens Council as vital to their communities

Local shopping centres are desribed by St Helens Council as vital to their communities

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LOCAL shopping centres across the borough are set to benefit from £500,000 of improvements, St Helens Council has announced.

The plans will go before senior councillors on the local authority’s cabinet.

Phase one would cover shopping centres at Sutton Village, Cambridge Road, Rainhill Village, Billinge, Earlestown, Thatto Heath, Four Acre and the town centre.

A second phase would improve Earlestown; Park Road South, Newton; Bassenthwaite Avenue, Wythburn Crescent and Dalehead Place, Moss Bank; Waterdale Place, Sutton; City Gardens and Hard Lane, Windle; Chancery Lane, Tickle Avenue, Nunn Street, Ashtons Green Drive and the Horseshoe roundabout, Parr.

Council Leader Barrie Grunewald said: “Our network of local shopping centres is essential and provides easily accessible facilities to meet the community’s day to day needs.

“They provide a good focal point for investment in accessible local services such as health centres, small-scale commercial and shopping requirements as well as their community amenities.

“They assist in addressing social exclusion and reduce the need to travel so can provide sustainable commercially attractive hubs across the borough.

“This scheme will improve the economic and physical attractiveness of an area.”

St Helens Council said it would bring the total spent at local shopping centres on providing new footways, resurfacing, disabled access and new street lighting to £2-million in the last year.

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2:10pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Sankey says...

The local shopping centres are struggling because of the expansion.of goods in supermarkets and the growth of out of town shopping malls. Barry grunewald has obviously swallowed some kind of text book does he really speak like that ? However the money will be wasted unless more is done to increase demand for local independent shops and that's more at government level and local / national planning. You can tart them up all you like it will make no difference unless the wider issues are addressed
The local shopping centres are struggling because of the expansion.of goods in supermarkets and the growth of out of town shopping malls. Barry grunewald has obviously swallowed some kind of text book does he really speak like that ? However the money will be wasted unless more is done to increase demand for local independent shops and that's more at government level and local / national planning. You can tart them up all you like it will make no difference unless the wider issues are addressed Sankey
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4:39pm Thu 27 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Do they know where Rainhill village is? Is that 500k between them all?

Still at least it's something.
Do they know where Rainhill village is? Is that 500k between them all? Still at least it's something. barrie timpson
  • Score: -4

5:48pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Geoff911 says...

throwing money at a problem does not mean it will fix it....
throwing money at a problem does not mean it will fix it.... Geoff911
  • Score: 4

8:31pm Thu 27 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

Go to any of the community shopping centres mentioned in the article and the first thing you will see is a representative of the Councils private parking company, sticking tickets on cars. Good enough reason to avoid them altogether. The money is to be spread amongst all of them so it won't amount to much per area. Probably a few more yellow lines and a couple of pay and display parking areas.
Go to any of the community shopping centres mentioned in the article and the first thing you will see is a representative of the Councils private parking company, sticking tickets on cars. Good enough reason to avoid them altogether. The money is to be spread amongst all of them so it won't amount to much per area. Probably a few more yellow lines and a couple of pay and display parking areas. smith&weston
  • Score: 7

8:45pm Thu 27 Mar 14

merseymouse says...

We could do with a purpous built health centre as the community has trebled in the last 30 years Rainhill resident
We could do with a purpous built health centre as the community has trebled in the last 30 years Rainhill resident merseymouse
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8:56pm Thu 27 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

merseymouse wrote:
We could do with a purpous built health centre as the community has trebled in the last 30 years Rainhill resident
I've asked for some information of the council lately , via freedom of information requests. Basically in a nutshell , we pay the 3rd highest amount of council tax - and receive nothing for it.
[quote][p][bold]merseymouse[/bold] wrote: We could do with a purpous built health centre as the community has trebled in the last 30 years Rainhill resident[/p][/quote]I've asked for some information of the council lately , via freedom of information requests. Basically in a nutshell , we pay the 3rd highest amount of council tax - and receive nothing for it. barrie timpson
  • Score: 9

12:51pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Hughwithaview says...

500k between all the shopping centres???
One thing this Council does know about is how to put a sticking plaster over a bursting dam!
I welcome real improvements to the local shopping areas but it is going to take more than 500k to make a positive aesthetic difference. Is anyone in the Town Hall capable of drawing up a decent, cost effective,, beneficial plan?
I fear not and suspect their only expertise lies in throwing good money after bad.
500k between all the shopping centres??? One thing this Council does know about is how to put a sticking plaster over a bursting dam! I welcome real improvements to the local shopping areas but it is going to take more than 500k to make a positive aesthetic difference. Is anyone in the Town Hall capable of drawing up a decent, cost effective,, beneficial plan? I fear not and suspect their only expertise lies in throwing good money after bad. Hughwithaview
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11:18am Sun 30 Mar 14

keepitreel says...

barrie timpson wrote:
Do they know where Rainhill village is? Is that 500k between them all?

Still at least it's something.
my wife ran a small budget supermarket in RAINHILL shopping centre,the owner invested hundreds of thousands of pounds in the venture,they stocked top named goods had a cooked meat counter etc but the good people of RAINHILL chose not to shop there because of the stigma of being seen in a budget shop,these same people used to go to the WIDNES branch of ALDI or LIDL and put all their shopping in bags for life from MARKS and SPENCERS,the shop is now a charity shop and the other shops have closed but they are now moaning that they dont have any local shops.
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: Do they know where Rainhill village is? Is that 500k between them all? Still at least it's something.[/p][/quote]my wife ran a small budget supermarket in RAINHILL shopping centre,the owner invested hundreds of thousands of pounds in the venture,they stocked top named goods had a cooked meat counter etc but the good people of RAINHILL chose not to shop there because of the stigma of being seen in a budget shop,these same people used to go to the WIDNES branch of ALDI or LIDL and put all their shopping in bags for life from MARKS and SPENCERS,the shop is now a charity shop and the other shops have closed but they are now moaning that they dont have any local shops. keepitreel
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11:26am Sun 30 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Did you ask them all it was because of stigma or did you take a survey?

Did you follow them all to Widnes to watch them? Isn't that voyeurism?
Did you ask them all it was because of stigma or did you take a survey? Did you follow them all to Widnes to watch them? Isn't that voyeurism? barrie timpson
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11:31am Sun 30 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Do you mean the shop that is now the YMCA ? That's the only charity shop there.
Do you mean the shop that is now the YMCA ? That's the only charity shop there. barrie timpson
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1:21pm Mon 31 Mar 14

keepitreel says...

barrie timpson wrote:
Do you mean the shop that is now the YMCA ? That's the only charity shop there.
yes thats the one,they have had shops in the precinct, a local butcher a handyman shop etc that closed due to the locals shopping out of town,the problem some have who come from RAINHILL is they think they are better than others and feel it beneath them to shop at a budget type store or should i say TO BE SEEN shopping at such places,why should the council spend money on a precinct that has proven to be a white elephant.
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: Do you mean the shop that is now the YMCA ? That's the only charity shop there.[/p][/quote]yes thats the one,they have had shops in the precinct, a local butcher a handyman shop etc that closed due to the locals shopping out of town,the problem some have who come from RAINHILL is they think they are better than others and feel it beneath them to shop at a budget type store or should i say TO BE SEEN shopping at such places,why should the council spend money on a precinct that has proven to be a white elephant. keepitreel
  • Score: 0

1:21pm Mon 31 Mar 14

keepitreel says...

barrie timpson wrote:
Do you mean the shop that is now the YMCA ? That's the only charity shop there.
yes thats the one,they have had shops in the precinct, a local butcher a handyman shop etc that closed due to the locals shopping out of town,the problem some have who come from RAINHILL is they think they are better than others and feel it beneath them to shop at a budget type store or should i say TO BE SEEN shopping at such places,why should the council spend money on a precinct that has proven to be a white elephant.
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: Do you mean the shop that is now the YMCA ? That's the only charity shop there.[/p][/quote]yes thats the one,they have had shops in the precinct, a local butcher a handyman shop etc that closed due to the locals shopping out of town,the problem some have who come from RAINHILL is they think they are better than others and feel it beneath them to shop at a budget type store or should i say TO BE SEEN shopping at such places,why should the council spend money on a precinct that has proven to be a white elephant. keepitreel
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Mon 31 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

That's odd because Kaydee's the budget shop has been open for years and is still going strong.

There is 1 empty units in the entire precinct that I know of - the old newsagents , which is about to be taken over by the letting agents.

Paint pot closed because the man retired, and was taken over by The Blue Mango Indian restaurant. Eliza the butcher shut about 35 years ago , and there is one in the main village now that has been there for many years.

I must say I can't remember your shop/supermarket. I'll have to ask some questions , to see if anybody remembers you. I'm sorry that your shop failed , sometimes things just don't work out.
That's odd because Kaydee's the budget shop has been open for years and is still going strong. There is 1 empty units in the entire precinct that I know of - the old newsagents , which is about to be taken over by the letting agents. Paint pot closed because the man retired, and was taken over by The Blue Mango Indian restaurant. Eliza the butcher shut about 35 years ago , and there is one in the main village now that has been there for many years. I must say I can't remember your shop/supermarket. I'll have to ask some questions , to see if anybody remembers you. I'm sorry that your shop failed , sometimes things just don't work out. barrie timpson
  • Score: 2

5:55pm Mon 31 Mar 14

keepitreel says...

ask about the butchers that was run by a young couple that only closed a few years ago next to the indian,i know business close that is the point of the debate,if you have a local shopping area and dont use it DONT moan about not having shops in your precinct,also isnt there a small supermarket near the church,what is the incentive to locate in the area as an independent.
ask about the butchers that was run by a young couple that only closed a few years ago next to the indian,i know business close that is the point of the debate,if you have a local shopping area and dont use it DONT moan about not having shops in your precinct,also isnt there a small supermarket near the church,what is the incentive to locate in the area as an independent. keepitreel
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7:05pm Mon 31 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

In regards to Rainhill... Parking raises it's head once again. It was quite a vibrant, steady shopping area until the new owner of the car park between the shops and the Civic Centre decided to introduce pay and display on what had once been a free car park. This was , of course, accompanied by clampers and so called fines stuck to windscreens.
In regards to Rainhill... Parking raises it's head once again. It was quite a vibrant, steady shopping area until the new owner of the car park between the shops and the Civic Centre decided to introduce pay and display on what had once been a free car park. This was , of course, accompanied by clampers and so called fines stuck to windscreens. smith&weston
  • Score: 1

9:16pm Mon 31 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

There's no point having 2 butchers in one small village. I don't know what the investment will entail , but considering we pay the third highest amount of council tax with quite a small population , I for one will not be moaning about some money being spent here.
There's no point having 2 butchers in one small village. I don't know what the investment will entail , but considering we pay the third highest amount of council tax with quite a small population , I for one will not be moaning about some money being spent here. barrie timpson
  • Score: 2

9:40pm Mon 31 Mar 14

keepitreel says...

the carpark was for the for the shoppers,but then the local commuters started to park there to use the train and their cars would be there all day so the shoppers had no where to park hence the short stay payment,what about the community centre,hasnt that been refurbished at great cost,and since when has the amount you pay had any relevance to what you get,if it is so bad sell your house and move to a cheaper one in another part of the town,cheaper tax and you will have plenty of council facility's on your door step,unless its SUTTON were they have closed everything..
the carpark was for the for the shoppers,but then the local commuters started to park there to use the train and their cars would be there all day so the shoppers had no where to park hence the short stay payment,what about the community centre,hasnt that been refurbished at great cost,and since when has the amount you pay had any relevance to what you get,if it is so bad sell your house and move to a cheaper one in another part of the town,cheaper tax and you will have plenty of council facility's on your door step,unless its SUTTON were they have closed everything.. keepitreel
  • Score: 0

12:15pm Tue 1 Apr 14

barrie timpson says...

The funding for the 4f centre did not come from the council.

My friend does remember you and your wife.
The funding for the 4f centre did not come from the council. My friend does remember you and your wife. barrie timpson
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