Labour's all woman shortlist to be finalised

St Helens Star: Marie Rimmer Marie Rimmer

A SHORTLIST will be finalised over this weekend of candidates vying to replace Shaun Woodward as the Labour candidate to fight the next General Election.

Meetings will be held tomorrow night and Sunday to determine the list of candidates aiming to be the party’s contender for the St Helens South and Whiston seat.

Local party members will then vote for their preferred candidate on Sunday, April 6.

It will be an all-woman shortlist following a decision by the national Labour Party, which is aiming to increase the amount of women in Parliament.

Among those to have thrown their hat into the ring are veteran former council leader Marie Rimmer, London-based councillor Catherine McDonald and Warrington council officer Eleanor Blackburn.

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9:00pm Thu 20 Mar 14

And Justice For All says...

I couldn't think of a worse candidate (other than the reanimated corpse of Thatcher) than Marie Rimmer. In my opinion she lead to ruination of the town and sat back looking after her own. Let's have some fresh blood into the town, sort out the forger and get this place turned aroung eh. The best thing Rimmer can do for this town is keep away.
I couldn't think of a worse candidate (other than the reanimated corpse of Thatcher) than Marie Rimmer. In my opinion she lead to ruination of the town and sat back looking after her own. Let's have some fresh blood into the town, sort out the forger and get this place turned aroung eh. The best thing Rimmer can do for this town is keep away. And Justice For All
  • Score: 33

4:52am Fri 21 Mar 14

Bettim says...

Good on you Marie
Good on you Marie Bettim
  • Score: -31

10:55am Fri 21 Mar 14

jumperr says...

We definitely need a new brush
We definitely need a new brush jumperr
  • Score: 25

1:37pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Sankey says...

What has St. Helens done to deserve this? A testing ground for a politically correct experiment that excludes fifty per cent of the candidates based on their sex. In order to combat sex descrimination.

As if that is bad enough the fifty per cent includes Marie rimmer who has a track record of destruction, failure and nepotism if you don't like that how about a parachuted careerist

Poor old St. Helens just when you thought it could get no worse
What has St. Helens done to deserve this? A testing ground for a politically correct experiment that excludes fifty per cent of the candidates based on their sex. In order to combat sex descrimination. As if that is bad enough the fifty per cent includes Marie rimmer who has a track record of destruction, failure and nepotism if you don't like that how about a parachuted careerist Poor old St. Helens just when you thought it could get no worse Sankey
  • Score: 27

2:00pm Fri 21 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
Justice just think If Marie gets the job you and the "usual suspects" will have 5 years of enjoyment rubbishing everything she does or says. As I have written a few weeks ago I suspect many are suffering withdrawal symptoms and having to turn your anger on to Barrie Grunwald.
Good job the Pope, the Achbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi are not the Leader of St.Helens council.
Does that make Grunewald a "usual suspect" for ousting her then?

Clearly he thought she was a bit "rubbish" too.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: Justice just think If Marie gets the job you and the "usual suspects" will have 5 years of enjoyment rubbishing everything she does or says. As I have written a few weeks ago I suspect many are suffering withdrawal symptoms and having to turn your anger on to Barrie Grunwald. Good job the Pope, the Achbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi are not the Leader of St.Helens council.[/p][/quote]Does that make Grunewald a "usual suspect" for ousting her then? Clearly he thought she was a bit "rubbish" too. barrie timpson
  • Score: 21

12:03am Sat 22 Mar 14

Keva68 says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
Justice just think If Marie gets the job you and the "usual suspects" will have 5 years of enjoyment rubbishing everything she does or says. As I have written a few weeks ago I suspect many are suffering withdrawal symptoms and having to turn your anger on to Barrie Grunwald.
Good job the Pope, the Achbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi are not the Leader of St.Helens council.
Have you ever thought people may rubbish everything she does as everything she does is rubbish?
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: Justice just think If Marie gets the job you and the "usual suspects" will have 5 years of enjoyment rubbishing everything she does or says. As I have written a few weeks ago I suspect many are suffering withdrawal symptoms and having to turn your anger on to Barrie Grunwald. Good job the Pope, the Achbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi are not the Leader of St.Helens council.[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought people may rubbish everything she does as everything she does is rubbish? Keva68
  • Score: 11

1:11am Sat 22 Mar 14

widnesman says...

"Labour's all woman shortlist to be finalised"

All woman short list!!

OH NO!!!
"Labour's all woman shortlist to be finalised" All woman short list!! OH NO!!! widnesman
  • Score: -7

7:46am Sat 22 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

So as other towns develop, St Helens will remain a class war zone, the red flag flying high, those with the temerity to better themselves will be regarded as Rich Scum .All so that some one stuck in the 70's can have a well paid job to fund the chip on their shoulder.
So as other towns develop, St Helens will remain a class war zone, the red flag flying high, those with the temerity to better themselves will be regarded as Rich Scum .All so that some one stuck in the 70's can have a well paid job to fund the chip on their shoulder. smith&weston
  • Score: 11

8:56am Sat 22 Mar 14

And Justice For All says...

Bill wind your neck in and take your blinkers off. I, and I'm sure many others on here, want a council we can get behind and support. It's painfully clear how much dimmer and her cronies wrecked this town. I would really much rather be on here singing the councils praises but I just cannot do that with this load of self serving morons.
We can't all follow them blindly like you.
Bill wind your neck in and take your blinkers off. I, and I'm sure many others on here, want a council we can get behind and support. It's painfully clear how much dimmer and her cronies wrecked this town. I would really much rather be on here singing the councils praises but I just cannot do that with this load of self serving morons. We can't all follow them blindly like you. And Justice For All
  • Score: 14

9:49am Sat 22 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Hey now now justice , don't you know Bill is fighting "from the inside" for a change......
Hey now now justice , don't you know Bill is fighting "from the inside" for a change...... barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

10:16am Sat 22 Mar 14

keepitreel says...

could the STAR be less bias and stop showing RIMMERS photo everytime this subject is mentioned,she is one of a chosen list NOT the only one or is she the STARS chosen one.
could the STAR be less bias and stop showing RIMMERS photo everytime this subject is mentioned,she is one of a chosen list NOT the only one or is she the STARS chosen one. keepitreel
  • Score: 10

12:15pm Sat 22 Mar 14

kjd161 says...

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Positive discrimination is WRONG. Let ALL interested parties throw their hats into the ring, and let the electorate decide who is going to represent them.That's called democracy. I find it patronising to be told that 50% of the population cannot be considered for the role, because I'm not able to decide what's good for me. Let me see the policies of everyone who wants to represent me, and trust me to make my own choice. Honest. I think I'm up to this. Unless someone else knows better what's good for me.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Positive discrimination is WRONG. Let ALL interested parties throw their hats into the ring, and let the electorate decide who is going to represent them.That's called democracy. I find it patronising to be told that 50% of the population cannot be considered for the role, because I'm not able to decide what's good for me. Let me see the policies of everyone who wants to represent me, and trust me to make my own choice. Honest. I think I'm up to this. Unless someone else knows better what's good for me. kjd161
  • Score: 7

1:30pm Sat 22 Mar 14

jumperr says...

Don't forget it is single concern the" Labour Party"it is not "ours"
Don't forget it is single concern the" Labour Party"it is not "ours" jumperr
  • Score: 2

1:38pm Sat 22 Mar 14

And Justice For All says...

kjd161 wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Positive discrimination is WRONG. Let ALL interested parties throw their hats into the ring, and let the electorate decide who is going to represent them.That's called democracy. I find it patronising to be told that 50% of the population cannot be considered for the role, because I'm not able to decide what's good for me. Let me see the policies of everyone who wants to represent me, and trust me to make my own choice. Honest. I think I'm up to this. Unless someone else knows better what's good for me.
I agree totally. Unfortunately, we seem to be falling foul of the usual "Ticking a box in equality" as so happens so much these days. "Ooooh 51% of the nation are female so we must have proportional representation". Bobbins! It just happens that the other candidates (particularly the St Helens girl returning from That London) probably ARE the best options (Dimmer aside of course), I would trust a female politician more than a male one if I'm honest (Dimmer aside of course)
[quote][p][bold]kjd161[/bold] wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Positive discrimination is WRONG. Let ALL interested parties throw their hats into the ring, and let the electorate decide who is going to represent them.That's called democracy. I find it patronising to be told that 50% of the population cannot be considered for the role, because I'm not able to decide what's good for me. Let me see the policies of everyone who wants to represent me, and trust me to make my own choice. Honest. I think I'm up to this. Unless someone else knows better what's good for me.[/p][/quote]I agree totally. Unfortunately, we seem to be falling foul of the usual "Ticking a box in equality" as so happens so much these days. "Ooooh 51% of the nation are female so we must have proportional representation". Bobbins! It just happens that the other candidates (particularly the St Helens girl returning from That London) probably ARE the best options (Dimmer aside of course), I would trust a female politician more than a male one if I'm honest (Dimmer aside of course) And Justice For All
  • Score: 7

4:34pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Hughwithaview says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
Justice just think If Marie gets the job you and the "usual suspects" will have 5 years of enjoyment rubbishing everything she does or says. As I have written a few weeks ago I suspect many are suffering withdrawal symptoms and having to turn your anger on to Barrie Grunwald.
Good job the Pope, the Achbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi are not the Leader of St.Helens council.
Just a minute Bill, why on earth would we want a spent force like Marie Rimmer as our MP? As others have suggested, Grunewald ousted her as Leader but now wants us all to believe she is the best candidate!
It just seems to me that she's looking to bolster her pension pot with a MP's salary before she shuffles off the political arena.

It's no good complaining about people who criticise the Labour Council - goodness knows there are enough reasons, you only have to take your rose coloured glasses off and look at the mess this town is in.

Grunewald, in his praise of Marie Rimmer waxed lyrical about her "track record" Well, if anyone can list her achievements when she held the position of Council Leader, I would be interested to know what they were?
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: Justice just think If Marie gets the job you and the "usual suspects" will have 5 years of enjoyment rubbishing everything she does or says. As I have written a few weeks ago I suspect many are suffering withdrawal symptoms and having to turn your anger on to Barrie Grunwald. Good job the Pope, the Achbishop of Canterbury or the Chief Rabbi are not the Leader of St.Helens council.[/p][/quote]Just a minute Bill, why on earth would we want a spent force like Marie Rimmer as our MP? As others have suggested, Grunewald ousted her as Leader but now wants us all to believe she is the best candidate! It just seems to me that she's looking to bolster her pension pot with a MP's salary before she shuffles off the political arena. It's no good complaining about people who criticise the Labour Council - goodness knows there are enough reasons, you only have to take your rose coloured glasses off and look at the mess this town is in. Grunewald, in his praise of Marie Rimmer waxed lyrical about her "track record" Well, if anyone can list her achievements when she held the position of Council Leader, I would be interested to know what they were? Hughwithaview
  • Score: 11

10:52am Sun 23 Mar 14

smith&weston says...

Spent Force sums it up nicely. All those years as a Labour Councillor, all those years as the Leader of a Labour Council and just look at the state of the town following this. Little or no new industry ( sorry but a dozen low paid jobs flipping burgers doesn't count ).Council tax increases with cuts to services. One of the worst household recycling schemes launched. The Red Bank debacle. OFSTED in and out of the Boroughs schools, condemning them on an almost monthly basis. A dead town centre.... shall I continue ?
Spent Force sums it up nicely. All those years as a Labour Councillor, all those years as the Leader of a Labour Council and just look at the state of the town following this. Little or no new industry ( sorry but a dozen low paid jobs flipping burgers doesn't count ).Council tax increases with cuts to services. One of the worst household recycling schemes launched. The Red Bank debacle. OFSTED in and out of the Boroughs schools, condemning them on an almost monthly basis. A dead town centre.... shall I continue ? smith&weston
  • Score: 17

2:02pm Sun 23 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Don't forget her motto though "right at the heart of the town ".

Which is apt really , considering she was rarely spotted in the wards she was supposed to be representing........
Don't forget her motto though "right at the heart of the town ". Which is apt really , considering she was rarely spotted in the wards she was supposed to be representing........ barrie timpson
  • Score: 9

10:29am Mon 24 Mar 14

jumperr says...

Not only Marie never seen , but good point!
Not only Marie never seen , but good point! jumperr
  • Score: 3

12:16pm Mon 24 Mar 14

mikeperry109 says...

I refer to my letter a couple of weeks ago - they use an all women shortlist when it suits them. Logically then, there should be an all woman shortlist for all "safe" Labour seats until 50% of Labour seats in Parliament are held by women! This would mean some male MPs stepping down to give their nseat to a woman. Is it not ironic that Jack Dromey MP the partner of Harriet Harman, the champion of all women shortlists, was selected from an open shortlist? Talk about hypocrisy and double standards. However, St. Helens voters have a choice - they can refuse to support the chosen woman and cast their vote for a Socialist candidate should one stand - socialists are not welcome in today's Labour Party!
I refer to my letter a couple of weeks ago - they use an all women shortlist when it suits them. Logically then, there should be an all woman shortlist for all "safe" Labour seats until 50% of Labour seats in Parliament are held by women! This would mean some male MPs stepping down to give their nseat to a woman. Is it not ironic that Jack Dromey MP the partner of Harriet Harman, the champion of all women shortlists, was selected from an open shortlist? Talk about hypocrisy and double standards. However, St. Helens voters have a choice - they can refuse to support the chosen woman and cast their vote for a Socialist candidate should one stand - socialists are not welcome in today's Labour Party! mikeperry109
  • Score: 5

12:33pm Mon 24 Mar 14

mikeperry109 says...

mikeperry109 wrote:
I refer to my letter a couple of weeks ago - they use an all women shortlist when it suits them. Logically then, there should be an all woman shortlist for all "safe" Labour seats until 50% of Labour seats in Parliament are held by women! This would mean some male MPs stepping down to give their nseat to a woman. Is it not ironic that Jack Dromey MP the partner of Harriet Harman, the champion of all women shortlists, was selected from an open shortlist? Talk about hypocrisy and double standards. However, St. Helens voters have a choice - they can refuse to support the chosen woman and cast their vote for a Socialist candidate should one stand - socialists are not welcome in today's Labour Party!
Or perhaps an independent candidate!
[quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: I refer to my letter a couple of weeks ago - they use an all women shortlist when it suits them. Logically then, there should be an all woman shortlist for all "safe" Labour seats until 50% of Labour seats in Parliament are held by women! This would mean some male MPs stepping down to give their nseat to a woman. Is it not ironic that Jack Dromey MP the partner of Harriet Harman, the champion of all women shortlists, was selected from an open shortlist? Talk about hypocrisy and double standards. However, St. Helens voters have a choice - they can refuse to support the chosen woman and cast their vote for a Socialist candidate should one stand - socialists are not welcome in today's Labour Party![/p][/quote]Or perhaps an independent candidate! mikeperry109
  • Score: 5

10:03pm Mon 24 Mar 14

anthonywilson says...

Surely one of the ways to better ensure equality of opportunity is to have a selection panel consisting of 50% men and 50% women.
As much as there needs to be a better gender balance in Parliament you cannot fight discrimination by being discriminatory yourselves. Are we soon going to see quotas in the labour Party too for disabled people, people who are Gay or of a particular ethnicity? What about social diversity as well? Considering the lack of ordinary working class candidates rather than public school educated careerists you would think its a priority but then again the Labour Party truly stopped representing ordinary working people years ago. The three main parties are just three shades of the same colour. In the UK we have a Conservative Party a Libservative Party and a Labservative Party. What vision does the Labour Party really have for changing things round or doing things differently? I just don't see it.
Surely one of the ways to better ensure equality of opportunity is to have a selection panel consisting of 50% men and 50% women. As much as there needs to be a better gender balance in Parliament you cannot fight discrimination by being discriminatory yourselves. Are we soon going to see quotas in the labour Party too for disabled people, people who are Gay or of a particular ethnicity? What about social diversity as well? Considering the lack of ordinary working class candidates rather than public school educated careerists you would think its a priority but then again the Labour Party truly stopped representing ordinary working people years ago. The three main parties are just three shades of the same colour. In the UK we have a Conservative Party a Libservative Party and a Labservative Party. What vision does the Labour Party really have for changing things round or doing things differently? I just don't see it. anthonywilson
  • Score: 3

1:11pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Sankey says...

Rimmer has got a twitter account now you will see she is still fighting the miners strike good to know she is up to speed with the issues affecting St. Helens in 2014.

Switch the lights off on your way out of St. Helens thank you
Rimmer has got a twitter account now you will see she is still fighting the miners strike good to know she is up to speed with the issues affecting St. Helens in 2014. Switch the lights off on your way out of St. Helens thank you Sankey
  • Score: 6

6:04pm Wed 26 Mar 14

aldishopper42 says...

If people are discontented with Labour's all-woman shortlist, you could always vote for a different party. It's not as though as you're legally obliged to vote Labour at every election.

Will the Bus Pass Elvis party be fielding any candidates here at the next GE, perhaps?
If people are discontented with Labour's all-woman shortlist, you could always vote for a different party. It's not as though as you're legally obliged to vote Labour at every election. Will the Bus Pass Elvis party be fielding any candidates here at the next GE, perhaps? aldishopper42
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Wed 26 Mar 14

kjd161 says...

aldishopper42 wrote:
If people are discontented with Labour's all-woman shortlist, you could always vote for a different party. It's not as though as you're legally obliged to vote Labour at every election.

Will the Bus Pass Elvis party be fielding any candidates here at the next GE, perhaps?
You're missing the point aldi. Many people,including myself, are life long labour voters. I don't like the way they are doing some things, but I would never dream of protest voting for any other party. I shall make my feelings known to my present MP, although I am under no illusion that it will make the slightest difference. Perhaps a massive abstention by all disaffected voters is the way to go. Whatever, I don't think I am alone when I say that I am fed up being told who I can and can't have to represent me. I don't care if parliament is 100% men or 100% women, or even 1005 Martian, as long as they do their job correctly, i.e. represent accurately the people who put them there.
[quote][p][bold]aldishopper42[/bold] wrote: If people are discontented with Labour's all-woman shortlist, you could always vote for a different party. It's not as though as you're legally obliged to vote Labour at every election. Will the Bus Pass Elvis party be fielding any candidates here at the next GE, perhaps?[/p][/quote]You're missing the point aldi. Many people,including myself, are life long labour voters. I don't like the way they are doing some things, but I would never dream of protest voting for any other party. I shall make my feelings known to my present MP, although I am under no illusion that it will make the slightest difference. Perhaps a massive abstention by all disaffected voters is the way to go. Whatever, I don't think I am alone when I say that I am fed up being told who I can and can't have to represent me. I don't care if parliament is 100% men or 100% women, or even 1005 Martian, as long as they do their job correctly, i.e. represent accurately the people who put them there. kjd161
  • Score: 0

11:22pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bill Bradbury says...

As I wrote many times I am totally opposed to all women shortlist but I am also opposed to a lot of other things as well.

So wind your necks in. Whoever gets the job let us hope she represents her constituents well. Many on this site are forgetting the choice is not down to St.Helens members alone but other areas of the South constituency in Knowsley etc.
Just think of all that bile you can write if it is Marie. Should keep you happy for 5 years. If it is not then we will see what are the objections to one of the two other candidates which are excellent.
As I wrote many times I am totally opposed to all women shortlist but I am also opposed to a lot of other things as well. So wind your necks in. Whoever gets the job let us hope she represents her constituents well. Many on this site are forgetting the choice is not down to St.Helens members alone but other areas of the South constituency in Knowsley etc. Just think of all that bile you can write if it is Marie. Should keep you happy for 5 years. If it is not then we will see what are the objections to one of the two other candidates which are excellent. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: -2

7:16am Thu 27 Mar 14

And Justice For All says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
As I wrote many times I am totally opposed to all women shortlist but I am also opposed to a lot of other things as well.

So wind your necks in. Whoever gets the job let us hope she represents her constituents well. Many on this site are forgetting the choice is not down to St.Helens members alone but other areas of the South constituency in Knowsley etc.
Just think of all that bile you can write if it is Marie. Should keep you happy for 5 years. If it is not then we will see what are the objections to one of the two other candidates which are excellent.
Ooops, I think someone needs a timeout! Says it all that you deleted your last comment Bill.
Well, that's one vote for Dimmer then. Bill you're very much mistaken. I have said previously (and the number of likes my comments received will back this up) like many people on here, I want a council that I can be proud of, Rimmer didn't do anything to make me proud of the council.
She was kicked out as leader by her own party but now she's good enough to be promoted to MP? Double standards. This just has PENSION written all over it.
Make your little comments all you like Bill, it wont change the fact that people do not like her for how she lead the ruination of the town.
Now get back in your box.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: As I wrote many times I am totally opposed to all women shortlist but I am also opposed to a lot of other things as well. So wind your necks in. Whoever gets the job let us hope she represents her constituents well. Many on this site are forgetting the choice is not down to St.Helens members alone but other areas of the South constituency in Knowsley etc. Just think of all that bile you can write if it is Marie. Should keep you happy for 5 years. If it is not then we will see what are the objections to one of the two other candidates which are excellent.[/p][/quote]Ooops, I think someone needs a timeout! Says it all that you deleted your last comment Bill. Well, that's one vote for Dimmer then. Bill you're very much mistaken. I have said previously (and the number of likes my comments received will back this up) like many people on here, I want a council that I can be proud of, Rimmer didn't do anything to make me proud of the council. She was kicked out as leader by her own party but now she's good enough to be promoted to MP? Double standards. This just has PENSION written all over it. Make your little comments all you like Bill, it wont change the fact that people do not like her for how she lead the ruination of the town. Now get back in your box. And Justice For All
  • Score: 3

8:57am Thu 27 Mar 14

barrie timpson says...

Where has Bills original comment gone?? Can we all have a delete facility or is it his pals at the Red Star of Belgrade doing it for him?
Where has Bills original comment gone?? Can we all have a delete facility or is it his pals at the Red Star of Belgrade doing it for him? barrie timpson
  • Score: 1

9:58am Thu 27 Mar 14

Bill Bradbury says...

None of my comments have been deleted. I was referring to my comments some weeks/months ago when the all woman list was decieded upon. I oppose such.

As to Marie my view who should get the job would be on the merits of the other candidates and I object to some people suggesting where my vote would go. I resigned from the Tories in the 70's for such shenanigins over an EU selection. Anyhow it is not my decision but those members of St.Helens South. They will select a worthy candidate which may surprise some of most of the comments above.
None of my comments have been deleted. I was referring to my comments some weeks/months ago when the all woman list was decieded upon. I oppose such. As to Marie my view who should get the job would be on the merits of the other candidates and I object to some people suggesting where my vote would go. I resigned from the Tories in the 70's for such shenanigins over an EU selection. Anyhow it is not my decision but those members of St.Helens South. They will select a worthy candidate which may surprise some of most of the comments above. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: -2

10:04am Thu 27 Mar 14

Sankey says...

I think rimmer will be selected not on merit but on the corrupt system of local politics where croney back stratching and favours and voting rule the day.

There will be uproar on the star website but people will vote for her as they would for a can of baked beans because its labour
I think rimmer will be selected not on merit but on the corrupt system of local politics where croney back stratching and favours and voting rule the day. There will be uproar on the star website but people will vote for her as they would for a can of baked beans because its labour Sankey
  • Score: 2

11:23am Thu 27 Mar 14

jumperr says...

wasn't allowed to select Shaun to run for election!
wasn't allowed to select Shaun to run for election! jumperr
  • Score: 0

11:24am Thu 27 Mar 14

jumperr says...

wasn't allowed to select Shaun to run for election!
wasn't allowed to select Shaun to run for election! jumperr
  • Score: 0

11:26am Thu 27 Mar 14

jumperr says...

If Marie gets the nod it is a complete travesty that the last election for St. Helens South MP was completely a discredit to the party?
If Marie gets the nod it is a complete travesty that the last election for St. Helens South MP was completely a discredit to the party? jumperr
  • Score: 2

7:19pm Mon 31 Mar 14

sportinsthelens says...

You do know that it is not about getting the nod - it is the party members of the constituency who decide.
You do know that it is not about getting the nod - it is the party members of the constituency who decide. sportinsthelens
  • Score: 0

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