Police crackdown on town centre yobs

St Helens Star: Police will be able to move on groups of youths under anti-social behaviour legislation Police will be able to move on groups of youths under anti-social behaviour legislation

GROUPS of unruly and intimidating yobs who loiter in the town centre on an evening are set to be moved on in a new police crackdown.

From April the police will impose a dispersal order, which will allow them to break up gangs and prevent them returning within 24 hours.

It follows mounting problems with teenagers throwing objects and abusing passers by on pedestrian areas of St Helens town centre.

McDonalds restaurant and the Range are among businesses that have complained about yobbish behaviour.

Many of the youngsters causing the problems are believed to be travelling into St Helens from other towns.

Inspector Dave Brennan, who polices the town centre, said the ‘dispersal order’ will not be directed at late night revellers or youngsters who act within the law.

He said: “There are quite a lot of groups coming into the town, primarily from Knowsley.

“And these can cause problems such as low level anti-social behaviour including criminal damage.

“It could be a matter of throwing things around or intimidating people by shouting abuse.

“These numbers have started rising over the last few months.”

Inspector Brennan said that under section 30 of the Anti Social Behaviour Act they have the power to split up groups of two or more from areas where there is persistent nuisance behaviour.

He added: “It will be in place until October 6.

“We carried out a survey of businesses which were in favour of what we are looking to do along with the town’s councillors.

“We have also had support from McDonalds and the Range in helping us provide information.”

Inspector Brennan said the youngsters are often using social media to coordinate their movements. “You can’t control social media but it certainly plays a part.

“But this is not about just targeting groups. It’s about those that cause trouble and the difference they can make in certain areas of the town.”

St Helens Council Leader Barrie Grunewald backed the move, saying there had been a “worrying increase in anti-social behaviour in the town centre at specific times”.

However, both police and the council have stressed the move does not relate to skateboarders.

As reported previously, a separate application to ban skateboarding from parts of the town centre is with St Helens Council.

Cllr Grunewald said: “I want to be very clear that this section 30 order is not related to the issues of skateboarders and I do not expect the powers will be used in dealing with that issue.

“Everyone who visits our town centre, young or old, has the right to feel safe and this order will help achieve that."

A 'designated area' is a specific area where police officers have the power to: • Break up groups of two or more people who are causing anti-social behaviour • Send under 16s home • Arrest anyone who ignores their instructions The area has been authorised by Merseyside Police and is supported by our partner, St Helens Council.

It will cover all the public areas inside the following boundary, as well as the roads themselves:

• Westfield Street to Cotham Street

• Cotham Street to Bickerstaffe Street

• Bickerstaffe Street to Library Street

• Library Street to Corporation Street

• Corporation Street to Parr Street

• Parr Street to Linkway East

• Linkway East to Linkway West

• and Linkway West to Westfield Street

The order will be in force every day between 5pm and 11pm.

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11:45am Wed 19 Mar 14

SausageHogger says...

Its about time too. I had a very rare Saturday evening out in St.Helens a few weeks back and visited the McDonalds in the Town Centre. The poor staff (who all were female) had to put up with a large group of intimidating youths who thought it was fine to use the restaurant as a youth centre. Real customers had to squeeze past and I am sure many would not have even tried and avoided the place.

They need to be moved on and even taken home and there parents given a lesson in parenting and responsibility.
Its about time too. I had a very rare Saturday evening out in St.Helens a few weeks back and visited the McDonalds in the Town Centre. The poor staff (who all were female) had to put up with a large group of intimidating youths who thought it was fine to use the restaurant as a youth centre. Real customers had to squeeze past and I am sure many would not have even tried and avoided the place. They need to be moved on and even taken home and there parents given a lesson in parenting and responsibility. SausageHogger
  • Score: 10

6:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

jumperr says...

Just hope they take other reports with the same seriousness outside the town centre, because they haven't up to now.
Just hope they take other reports with the same seriousness outside the town centre, because they haven't up to now. jumperr
  • Score: 5

11:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

frankly says...

about time as well.
about time as well. frankly
  • Score: 5

11:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

frankly says...

and I agree about McDs..I was in and two lads and two girls sat at a table and never bought a thing
and I agree about McDs..I was in and two lads and two girls sat at a table and never bought a thing frankly
  • Score: 4

9:45am Thu 20 Mar 14

Mummerymc says...

As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays.
I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.
As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays. I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens. Mummerymc
  • Score: 0

11:17am Thu 20 Mar 14

jumperr says...

Can you have choice or not of being entertained when you go shopping?
Can you have choice or not of being entertained when you go shopping? jumperr
  • Score: 1

2:15pm Fri 21 Mar 14

DeeJay says...

It looks like some of the youths who frequent the town centre would be better staying at home and brushing up on their English.
It looks like some of the youths who frequent the town centre would be better staying at home and brushing up on their English. DeeJay
  • Score: 4

2:52pm Fri 21 Mar 14

jumperr says...

I've noticed that loitering is mentioned ,when did it become alright to loiter?
I've noticed that loitering is mentioned ,when did it become alright to loiter? jumperr
  • Score: 3

7:24pm Fri 21 Mar 14

rosered1 says...

Mummerymc wrote:
As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays.
I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.
Funny how you are "children" when it suits your argument and 'almost adults' when it doesn't.

For what it is worth, you should perhaps be spending more time at home with your schoolbooks as your education loss is showing in every line.

Hmmm....who knew 'entertainative' existed?? Or 'havvock'? And they say education isn't what it used to be......
[quote][p][bold]Mummerymc[/bold] wrote: As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays. I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.[/p][/quote]Funny how you are "children" when it suits your argument and 'almost adults' when it doesn't. For what it is worth, you should perhaps be spending more time at home with your schoolbooks as your education loss is showing in every line. Hmmm....who knew 'entertainative' existed?? Or 'havvock'? And they say education isn't what it used to be...... rosered1
  • Score: 4

8:21am Sat 22 Mar 14

jumperr says...

"Not well known for their behaviour " so I wonder why other folk have to put up with it?
"Not well known for their behaviour " so I wonder why other folk have to put up with it? jumperr
  • Score: 2

1:46pm Sat 22 Mar 14

And Justice For All says...

Mummerymc wrote:
As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays.
I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.
Exactly, you are CHILDREN. You really do not have a reason to be in the town centre at night. Granted, the council have more or less eradicated facilities but there were very little facilities for me and my lot when I was 15, not too long ago. The difference is, we didn't spend our evenings wandering around a town centre. Fair enough you may not be looking for trouble but trouble can soon find you. Perhaps rather than hanging around the town at night, your time would be better spent at home studying Grammar and Spelling?
[quote][p][bold]Mummerymc[/bold] wrote: As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays. I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.[/p][/quote]Exactly, you are CHILDREN. You really do not have a reason to be in the town centre at night. Granted, the council have more or less eradicated facilities but there were very little facilities for me and my lot when I was 15, not too long ago. The difference is, we didn't spend our evenings wandering around a town centre. Fair enough you may not be looking for trouble but trouble can soon find you. Perhaps rather than hanging around the town at night, your time would be better spent at home studying Grammar and Spelling? And Justice For All
  • Score: 6

3:02pm Sat 22 Mar 14

jumperr says...

It would be nice if they applied the rules in residential areas as well
It would be nice if they applied the rules in residential areas as well jumperr
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Hughwithaview says...

Mummerymc wrote:
As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays.
I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.
I think someone needs to alert the Education Task Force!
Reading this has certainly made me come over "all Morbid"
[quote][p][bold]Mummerymc[/bold] wrote: As a 15 year old girl who goes too that town centre and hangs round with the people, i am well known too most people there, but i am sick of people thinking we are no good, we are Children we're not well known for our behaviour, we respect the town centre like we own it, We are not Bums that sit round being all Morbid, We like being very entertainative, Parish Church Enjoys our company on the saturdays. I do not see the need in us getting Kicked away from a safe area, Wheir their is CCTV protecting us, Unlike going sitting over a park when their is no lights, No CCTV and loads of havvock by the 'Chavs' that go round StHelens.[/p][/quote]I think someone needs to alert the Education Task Force! Reading this has certainly made me come over "all Morbid" Hughwithaview
  • Score: 4

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