Another 156 jobs to go as Red Bank faces axe

St Helens Star: Another 156 jobs to go as Red Bank faces axes Another 156 jobs to go as Red Bank faces axes

A ST HELENS Council managed secure unit for young offenders faces the axe in a move that will cost 156 jobs Newton-le-Willows based Red Bank community home, right, will shut the local authority has confirmed.

Town Hall bosses say it is because Youth Justice Board (YJB) intends to move contracts to other parts of the country.

St Helens Council leader Barrie Grunewald is vowing to fight the closure and with the loss of so many jobs, he is also calling on the government to intervene.

A time frame for the closure has not been given, however, when the axe falls it will be another significant loss of council jobs for St Helens Council, which has shed more than 1300 positions in recent years.

The council’s chief executive Carole Hudson has written to the Youth Justice Board expressing the council’s concern and to seek information on potential implications for young residents and staff.

Red Bank, which has both secure and open units, provides placements for boys and girls aged between 10 and 17.

It offers full residential care, educational facilities and healthcare provision.

Some of the offenders serving sentences there have committed grave crimes. John Venables, one of James Bulger’s killers, spent time there as child prisoner.

Councillor Sue Murphy, chairwoman of Red Bank Controlled Community Home Body of Managers and cabinet member for schools, said she was shocked and saddened by the announcement: “This is tragic. It’s a lot of jobs lost in a specialist area where there is already not enough provision in the country.

“Red Bank has given many years of specialist service looking after very vulnerable and high profile young offenders.”

However, the Youth Justice Board appeared to challenge the council’s version of events, suggesting the closure was a decision being made locally.

Lin Hinnigan, YJB chief Executive said: “The reduction in demand for secure children’s home places in the young people’s secure estate is the key driver for the YJB reducing the number of places. Secure children’s homes are owned and managed by local authorities, who have responsibility for their operation. Decisions about homes’ futures will be taken by the local authority.

“The YJB will seek to minimise disruption to children currently placed at Red Bank and will work closely with the home to ensure that individual plans are put in place for each young person, enabling as few as possible to require transfers.”

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8:14am Thu 13 Feb 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Yet another Government cut to save money putting offenders in Young Offenders Institutions at an approx. cost (I was told) of £120/night compared with a Secure Childrens' Home which is 2-3 times that cost.
I know for a fact how hard St.helens Council tried to keep Red Bank Open putting in a number of bids on a reducing bed number, best to worst case scenario. It looks as the powers that be in London has made a decison purely on cost. I would not hold my breath in getting the decison reversed.

As they have butchered the Prison service by putting in untrained and reduced staffing-privatisati
on- this decison does not surprise me.

Taken with the other recent news of job losses this is really bad news.
Yet another Government cut to save money putting offenders in Young Offenders Institutions at an approx. cost (I was told) of £120/night compared with a Secure Childrens' Home which is 2-3 times that cost. I know for a fact how hard St.helens Council tried to keep Red Bank Open putting in a number of bids on a reducing bed number, best to worst case scenario. It looks as the powers that be in London has made a decison purely on cost. I would not hold my breath in getting the decison reversed. As they have butchered the Prison service by putting in untrained and reduced staffing-privatisati on- this decison does not surprise me. Taken with the other recent news of job losses this is really bad news. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 11

5:21pm Thu 13 Feb 14

MrBenggo says...

In Cheshire they are advertising for the public to help fill the gap made by sacking police,I think Cameron calls it "the big society".
In Cheshire they are advertising for the public to help fill the gap made by sacking police,I think Cameron calls it "the big society". MrBenggo
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Mr Bean`s mate says...

I can't believe for one minute that St.Helens Council would make the young people and staff who live and work at Red Bank wait until the very last minute before telling them they were going to close it causing major up evil for both groups if they knew well in advance it was goimg to close.
I can't believe for one minute that St.Helens Council would make the young people and staff who live and work at Red Bank wait until the very last minute before telling them they were going to close it causing major up evil for both groups if they knew well in advance it was goimg to close. Mr Bean`s mate
  • Score: -2

11:29pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Mr Bean`s mate wrote:
I can't believe for one minute that St.Helens Council would make the young people and staff who live and work at Red Bank wait until the very last minute before telling them they were going to close it causing major up evil for both groups if they knew well in advance it was goimg to close.
I wish people would not comment with really misinformation. The fate of Red Bank whether the Council's 5 bids would be successul should have been out some 3 weeks ago. They were informed of the decision of their unsuccesful bid on Monday and said nothing until they could inform the Staff on Wednesday before they could read about it in the press. My own Union has spoken to staff today (Thursday)
"The last minute" was a Government ploy as is the final release of the STRB report which will be published tomorrow, again sat on by Gove for over 3 weeks so it would coincide with school holidays next week giving no chance for schools/teachers to look at its implications before they return.

Very clever man is Gove as it appears he has not got what he wished until perhaps after the next election if Tories win then it will be extended school hours and days, teachers having to cover and getting no preparation time. He certainly does not want to upset teachers with an approaching election then he will do his worst.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bean`s mate[/bold] wrote: I can't believe for one minute that St.Helens Council would make the young people and staff who live and work at Red Bank wait until the very last minute before telling them they were going to close it causing major up evil for both groups if they knew well in advance it was goimg to close.[/p][/quote]I wish people would not comment with really misinformation. The fate of Red Bank whether the Council's 5 bids would be successul should have been out some 3 weeks ago. They were informed of the decision of their unsuccesful bid on Monday and said nothing until they could inform the Staff on Wednesday before they could read about it in the press. My own Union has spoken to staff today (Thursday) "The last minute" was a Government ploy as is the final release of the STRB report which will be published tomorrow, again sat on by Gove for over 3 weeks so it would coincide with school holidays next week giving no chance for schools/teachers to look at its implications before they return. Very clever man is Gove as it appears he has not got what he wished until perhaps after the next election if Tories win then it will be extended school hours and days, teachers having to cover and getting no preparation time. He certainly does not want to upset teachers with an approaching election then he will do his worst. Bill Bradbury
  • Score: 6

8:15am Fri 14 Feb 14

Mr Bean`s mate says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
Mr Bean`s mate wrote:
I can't believe for one minute that St.Helens Council would make the young people and staff who live and work at Red Bank wait until the very last minute before telling them they were going to close it causing major up evil for both groups if they knew well in advance it was goimg to close.
I wish people would not comment with really misinformation. The fate of Red Bank whether the Council's 5 bids would be successul should have been out some 3 weeks ago. They were informed of the decision of their unsuccesful bid on Monday and said nothing until they could inform the Staff on Wednesday before they could read about it in the press. My own Union has spoken to staff today (Thursday)
"The last minute" was a Government ploy as is the final release of the STRB report which will be published tomorrow, again sat on by Gove for over 3 weeks so it would coincide with school holidays next week giving no chance for schools/teachers to look at its implications before they return.

Very clever man is Gove as it appears he has not got what he wished until perhaps after the next election if Tories win then it will be extended school hours and days, teachers having to cover and getting no preparation time. He certainly does not want to upset teachers with an approaching election then he will do his worst.
However, the Youth Justice Board appeared to challenge the council’s version of events, suggesting the closure was a decision being made locally.

All I am saying is that the that St. Helens would not have pulled the plug and left ALL the staff and Young People at Red Bank in the Dark for so long, if the decision had made locally.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Bean`s mate[/bold] wrote: I can't believe for one minute that St.Helens Council would make the young people and staff who live and work at Red Bank wait until the very last minute before telling them they were going to close it causing major up evil for both groups if they knew well in advance it was goimg to close.[/p][/quote]I wish people would not comment with really misinformation. The fate of Red Bank whether the Council's 5 bids would be successul should have been out some 3 weeks ago. They were informed of the decision of their unsuccesful bid on Monday and said nothing until they could inform the Staff on Wednesday before they could read about it in the press. My own Union has spoken to staff today (Thursday) "The last minute" was a Government ploy as is the final release of the STRB report which will be published tomorrow, again sat on by Gove for over 3 weeks so it would coincide with school holidays next week giving no chance for schools/teachers to look at its implications before they return. Very clever man is Gove as it appears he has not got what he wished until perhaps after the next election if Tories win then it will be extended school hours and days, teachers having to cover and getting no preparation time. He certainly does not want to upset teachers with an approaching election then he will do his worst.[/p][/quote]However, the Youth Justice Board appeared to challenge the council’s version of events, suggesting the closure was a decision being made locally. All I am saying is that the that St. Helens would not have pulled the plug and left ALL the staff and Young People at Red Bank in the Dark for so long, if the decision had made locally. Mr Bean`s mate
  • Score: -2

12:20pm Sat 15 Feb 14

mikeashworth says...

The people in charge of the buildig / organisation have stated/ claimed that fewer children are being referred hence they are not required. Perhaps this is a good thing as it may indicate that less children require the kind of help these places provide? Perhaps not all job losses are bad?
The people in charge of the buildig / organisation have stated/ claimed that fewer children are being referred hence they are not required. Perhaps this is a good thing as it may indicate that less children require the kind of help these places provide? Perhaps not all job losses are bad? mikeashworth
  • Score: 0

8:19am Sun 16 Feb 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Not only are job losses are bad, wheresoever they occur, but the cheaper provision for offenders is also as bad. They certainly won't be in as secure and supportive provision as red Bank gave. My information is that theplace will close at the end of march, contractual obligations being taken into account so some may hang on a little longer.
For your information St.Helens do not own the site, only certain parts, as this was transfrred to St.Helens from Lancashire to whom any sale reverts back to, so I am led to believe.
Not only are job losses are bad, wheresoever they occur, but the cheaper provision for offenders is also as bad. They certainly won't be in as secure and supportive provision as red Bank gave. My information is that theplace will close at the end of march, contractual obligations being taken into account so some may hang on a little longer. For your information St.Helens do not own the site, only certain parts, as this was transfrred to St.Helens from Lancashire to whom any sale reverts back to, so I am led to believe. Bill Bradbury
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