Ex-Lib Dem John Beirne makes shock switch to UKIP

St Helens Star: John Beirne (pictured right) during a previous campaign John Beirne (pictured right) during a previous campaign

AFTER spending four years away from the political spotlight, the former mayor of St Helens has announced his return as a member of UKIP.

John Beirne, who was involved in local politics for more than 20 years, said he was disaffected with the coalition and had objected to his former party joining forces with the Tories.

Beirne, mayor between 2008 and 2009, said: “I was unhappy at the Lib Dems forming a coalition in government with the Tories and felt all three main political parties were out of touch with St Helens people.

“St Helens needs a change, a fresh approach and new ideas and local people to serve the electorate, not a political party. UKIP has a strong stance in Europe and offer no nonsense policies.

"This year will see a strong challenge in St Helens.”

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1:16pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Disgraceful. Rats and sinking ships and bandwagons come to mind and an eye on the local elections (Lib/Dems hardly figured in the recent Billinge & eneley Green election) that he may have a better chance of being re-elected as a Cllr. under the UKIPP banner than a Lib/Dem or did I read somewhere from his new leader Farage that it will be NEWKIP? No wonder politicians have a bad name- pure self interest.
Mind you it has attracted all sorts of strange bedfellows so what is new?

Their "strong stance in Europe" is that they never turn up to vote with the excuse why support something they don't belive in. I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration, very similar to the extreme right wing politicians in France under Penn. Locally I will also be interested in how his new party will make the cuts due to £millions taken by Central Government especially his "fresh approach and new ideas".
Disgraceful. Rats and sinking ships and bandwagons come to mind and an eye on the local elections (Lib/Dems hardly figured in the recent Billinge & eneley Green election) that he may have a better chance of being re-elected as a Cllr. under the UKIPP banner than a Lib/Dem or did I read somewhere from his new leader Farage that it will be NEWKIP? No wonder politicians have a bad name- pure self interest. Mind you it has attracted all sorts of strange bedfellows so what is new? Their "strong stance in Europe" is that they never turn up to vote with the excuse why support something they don't belive in. I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration, very similar to the extreme right wing politicians in France under Penn. Locally I will also be interested in how his new party will make the cuts due to £millions taken by Central Government especially his "fresh approach and new ideas". Bill Bradbury

1:23pm Thu 30 Jan 14

suttonboy says...

Id be more likely to vote for him than Marie Rimmer in the generals.
Id be more likely to vote for him than Marie Rimmer in the generals. suttonboy

1:35pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Keva68 says...

Can't be any worse than any of the other leeches in the town hall.
Can't be any worse than any of the other leeches in the town hall. Keva68

2:28pm Thu 30 Jan 14

jumperr says...

That's why politics has got a bad name and agree with all comments
That's why politics has got a bad name and agree with all comments jumperr

4:11pm Thu 30 Jan 14

sherlock1 says...

I have to say when John Bernie was one of my councilours he was the only one you saw coming round outside of election time if he had stood for the Lib Dems at the election I would have voted for him
I have to say when John Bernie was one of my councilours he was the only one you saw coming round outside of election time if he had stood for the Lib Dems at the election I would have voted for him sherlock1

9:40pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Left of Centre says...

Is this the same John Beirne who was a Lib Dem councillor when they formed a coalition with the Tories in St Helens after the local elections in May 2006?
Is this the same John Beirne who was a Lib Dem councillor when they formed a coalition with the Tories in St Helens after the local elections in May 2006? Left of Centre

10:08pm Thu 30 Jan 14

ferretcat says...

Maybe Mr Beirne didn't stand when due for re-election as he didn't think he would be successful.
How can a person support a party for so long and now totally disagree with their policies. The Conservatives are not as right wing as his new party....
Maybe Mr Beirne didn't stand when due for re-election as he didn't think he would be successful. How can a person support a party for so long and now totally disagree with their policies. The Conservatives are not as right wing as his new party.... ferretcat

11:19pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Left of Centre wrote:
Is this the same John Beirne who was a Lib Dem councillor when they formed a coalition with the Tories in St Helens after the local elections in May 2006?
My thought exactly. It was so obvious I did not make the point earlier. Decent enough chap but I ask you why such a late conversion having supported a local coalition for all those years? Someone speaks with forked tongue.
As I wrote earlier he saw no chance of being elected under a Lib/Dem banner so he has jumped on the single issue extreme Right wing of the Tory party bandwagon as he saw that Newkip (as Farage says) came 2nd. in a recent local election. But that's politicians for you. Their local manifesto was so full of wish-list ideas and bogey-men I could have been tempted to vote for them. Probably will fool people some of the time but not all of the time if voters think things through. These fringe parties come and go. I might set up the "Blackadder Party" !
Interesting to see all the anti Labour votes on these comments. Tells you a lot. Isn't politics wonderful?
[quote][p][bold]Left of Centre[/bold] wrote: Is this the same John Beirne who was a Lib Dem councillor when they formed a coalition with the Tories in St Helens after the local elections in May 2006?[/p][/quote]My thought exactly. It was so obvious I did not make the point earlier. Decent enough chap but I ask you why such a late conversion having supported a local coalition for all those years? Someone speaks with forked tongue. As I wrote earlier he saw no chance of being elected under a Lib/Dem banner so he has jumped on the single issue extreme Right wing of the Tory party bandwagon as he saw that Newkip (as Farage says) came 2nd. in a recent local election. But that's politicians for you. Their local manifesto was so full of wish-list ideas and bogey-men I could have been tempted to vote for them. Probably will fool people some of the time but not all of the time if voters think things through. These fringe parties come and go. I might set up the "Blackadder Party" ! Interesting to see all the anti Labour votes on these comments. Tells you a lot. Isn't politics wonderful? Bill Bradbury

1:38am Fri 31 Jan 14

WolfieSmith says...

I'm a member of UKIP, have been for many years. I do not trust John Beirne, as far as I can see he's a typical wannabe politician - likes to see his face in the papers. I don't know him but I imagine the position's more important than the people. How can anyone trust New Labour? They took my country into an illegal war in Iraq, filled it with foriegners, did nothing to help the British working man and woman by re-nationalising industries, became Tories over night. The three main parties and the EU are bleeding the British taxpaying, working man and woman dry. It's time for a change. Bill - wasn't Labour one of these 'fringe party's' once upon a time?
I'm a member of UKIP, have been for many years. I do not trust John Beirne, as far as I can see he's a typical wannabe politician - likes to see his face in the papers. I don't know him but I imagine the position's more important than the people. How can anyone trust New Labour? They took my country into an illegal war in Iraq, filled it with foriegners, did nothing to help the British working man and woman by re-nationalising industries, became Tories over night. The three main parties and the EU are bleeding the British taxpaying, working man and woman dry. It's time for a change. Bill - wasn't Labour one of these 'fringe party's' once upon a time? WolfieSmith

10:41am Fri 31 Jan 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Wolfie I respect your views although I maydisagree with them. You are correct many in my party objected to the war-not one of our better decisions.
I just don't like political opportuism.
As to the "foreigners" debate, we will have this over the election period and free from calls of racism a term to shut people up about discussing these issues sensibly. Shouting "racist" at someone is not an argument but putting the facts as we both perceive them (yours will differ from mine) is perfectly sensible.
Wolfie I respect your views although I maydisagree with them. You are correct many in my party objected to the war-not one of our better decisions. I just don't like political opportuism. As to the "foreigners" debate, we will have this over the election period and free from calls of racism a term to shut people up about discussing these issues sensibly. Shouting "racist" at someone is not an argument but putting the facts as we both perceive them (yours will differ from mine) is perfectly sensible. Bill Bradbury

12:55pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Sankey says...

In my view the Tories labour and lib dems are completely out of touch with ordinary people and have been for the last 20 years. No reasonable person has a problem with immigration but the scale of it is overwhelming the country and is completely unsustainable. None of the three parties are listening. There is also huge dissatisfaction with Europe again nothing being done.

Against this backdrop UKIP have come to the fore and its fine poking insults but they are speaking for millions of people and will have a massive impact on the next election.
In my view the Tories labour and lib dems are completely out of touch with ordinary people and have been for the last 20 years. No reasonable person has a problem with immigration but the scale of it is overwhelming the country and is completely unsustainable. None of the three parties are listening. There is also huge dissatisfaction with Europe again nothing being done. Against this backdrop UKIP have come to the fore and its fine poking insults but they are speaking for millions of people and will have a massive impact on the next election. Sankey

4:24pm Fri 31 Jan 14

AbsolutelyPassionate says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
Disgraceful. Rats and sinking ships and bandwagons come to mind and an eye on the local elections (Lib/Dems hardly figured in the recent Billinge & eneley Green election) that he may have a better chance of being re-elected as a Cllr. under the UKIPP banner than a Lib/Dem or did I read somewhere from his new leader Farage that it will be NEWKIP? No wonder politicians have a bad name- pure self interest.
Mind you it has attracted all sorts of strange bedfellows so what is new?

Their "strong stance in Europe" is that they never turn up to vote with the excuse why support something they don't belive in. I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration, very similar to the extreme right wing politicians in France under Penn. Locally I will also be interested in how his new party will make the cuts due to £millions taken by Central Government especially his "fresh approach and new ideas".
@Bill Bradbury
"I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration"

More grammar schools
Flat simplified tax rate
Abolish NICs
No tax for those on minimum wage
Drop HS2
Drop "green" taxes
Reinstate border controls
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful. Rats and sinking ships and bandwagons come to mind and an eye on the local elections (Lib/Dems hardly figured in the recent Billinge & eneley Green election) that he may have a better chance of being re-elected as a Cllr. under the UKIPP banner than a Lib/Dem or did I read somewhere from his new leader Farage that it will be NEWKIP? No wonder politicians have a bad name- pure self interest. Mind you it has attracted all sorts of strange bedfellows so what is new? Their "strong stance in Europe" is that they never turn up to vote with the excuse why support something they don't belive in. I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration, very similar to the extreme right wing politicians in France under Penn. Locally I will also be interested in how his new party will make the cuts due to £millions taken by Central Government especially his "fresh approach and new ideas".[/p][/quote]@Bill Bradbury "I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration" More grammar schools Flat simplified tax rate Abolish NICs No tax for those on minimum wage Drop HS2 Drop "green" taxes Reinstate border controls AbsolutelyPassionate

12:10am Sat 1 Feb 14

Bill Bradbury says...

Justice for all just read my comment instead of making aunt sallies so you can knock down. I wrote he was a decent chap BUT a chancer jumping ship as he sees a better cance to get elected under UKIP than a last in a recent election of Lib/dem.
Absolutely passionate is this the party that has the worst voting and attendance record in Europe; last July their health spokesman that people requiring urgent NHS treatment should be seen within 2 hours- a reasonable enough proposition then added non urgent should be given the option of paying so as to jump the queue. He also advocated GP charging to see patients exempt from free prescriptions only if they had not ben drinking.
Banning all teaching of climate change in schools-their education spokesman, (MEP Derek Clark)despite the fact that 97% concensus amongst climate scientists supporting global warming.
Complete abolition of inheritance tax- that will work wonders for the super rich (estates less than £325,000 don't pay a penny). This policy panders to the 2.6% who have some of the biggest estates in Britain.
Has friends in Europe on the far right as part of the Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group in the Euro Parliament- compromised of 10 partie which include the anti immigration Movement for France, the ultra-nationalist Slovak Party and True Finns. Any one objecting to such alliances liable to face severe repercussions. In 2010 UKIP expemmed MEP Nikki Sinclair who objected to working with those of "Extreme views".
Grammar schools- that seperate sheep from goats on an exam that registers the majority as failures or 2nd class students. I have witnessed the damage that does.
HS2 will benefit the NW and promised when £billions was spent on the Channel Tunnel.
Anyone on minimum wage is unlikely to pay tax so that is a dodgy claim.
I repeat UKip is the disaffected extreme right wing of the Tory party which before Farage were embedded in the Tories. I know which party will not be looking after the rich and dealing with family pressures and it won't be Tories of any shade.
Justice for all just read my comment instead of making aunt sallies so you can knock down. I wrote he was a decent chap BUT a chancer jumping ship as he sees a better cance to get elected under UKIP than a last in a recent election of Lib/dem. Absolutely passionate is this the party that has the worst voting and attendance record in Europe; last July their health spokesman that people requiring urgent NHS treatment should be seen within 2 hours- a reasonable enough proposition then added non urgent should be given the option of paying so as to jump the queue. He also advocated GP charging to see patients exempt from free prescriptions only if they had not ben drinking. Banning all teaching of climate change in schools-their education spokesman, (MEP Derek Clark)despite the fact that 97% concensus amongst climate scientists supporting global warming. Complete abolition of inheritance tax- that will work wonders for the super rich (estates less than £325,000 don't pay a penny). This policy panders to the 2.6% who have some of the biggest estates in Britain. Has friends in Europe on the far right as part of the Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group in the Euro Parliament- compromised of 10 partie which include the anti immigration Movement for France, the ultra-nationalist Slovak Party and True Finns. Any one objecting to such alliances liable to face severe repercussions. In 2010 UKIP expemmed MEP Nikki Sinclair who objected to working with those of "Extreme views". Grammar schools- that seperate sheep from goats on an exam that registers the majority as failures or 2nd class students. I have witnessed the damage that does. HS2 will benefit the NW and promised when £billions was spent on the Channel Tunnel. Anyone on minimum wage is unlikely to pay tax so that is a dodgy claim. I repeat UKip is the disaffected extreme right wing of the Tory party which before Farage were embedded in the Tories. I know which party will not be looking after the rich and dealing with family pressures and it won't be Tories of any shade. Bill Bradbury

1:36am Sat 1 Feb 14

anthonywilson says...

Nice to see ex Councillor Beirne sticking with his principles by jumping on the bandwagon, not!. Another one who simply likes his picture in the paper.
Nice to see ex Councillor Beirne sticking with his principles by jumping on the bandwagon, not!. Another one who simply likes his picture in the paper. anthonywilson

7:47am Sat 1 Feb 14

chasmcn says...

WolfieSmith wrote:
I'm a member of UKIP, have been for many years. I do not trust John Beirne, as far as I can see he's a typical wannabe politician - likes to see his face in the papers. I don't know him but I imagine the position's more important than the people. How can anyone trust New Labour? They took my country into an illegal war in Iraq, filled it with foriegners, did nothing to help the British working man and woman by re-nationalising industries, became Tories over night. The three main parties and the EU are bleeding the British taxpaying, working man and woman dry. It's time for a change. Bill - wasn't Labour one of these 'fringe party's' once upon a time?
Are Ukip in favour of renationalisation ? i dont think ukip are a working mans party i lot of smoke and mirrors used in their language .Look at the people who give them donations mostly ex tory party donors who dont think Cameron is right wing enough .
[quote][p][bold]WolfieSmith[/bold] wrote: I'm a member of UKIP, have been for many years. I do not trust John Beirne, as far as I can see he's a typical wannabe politician - likes to see his face in the papers. I don't know him but I imagine the position's more important than the people. How can anyone trust New Labour? They took my country into an illegal war in Iraq, filled it with foriegners, did nothing to help the British working man and woman by re-nationalising industries, became Tories over night. The three main parties and the EU are bleeding the British taxpaying, working man and woman dry. It's time for a change. Bill - wasn't Labour one of these 'fringe party's' once upon a time?[/p][/quote]Are Ukip in favour of renationalisation ? i dont think ukip are a working mans party i lot of smoke and mirrors used in their language .Look at the people who give them donations mostly ex tory party donors who dont think Cameron is right wing enough . chasmcn

7:58am Sat 1 Feb 14

chasmcn says...

AbsolutelyPassionate wrote:
Bill Bradbury wrote:
Disgraceful. Rats and sinking ships and bandwagons come to mind and an eye on the local elections (Lib/Dems hardly figured in the recent Billinge & eneley Green election) that he may have a better chance of being re-elected as a Cllr. under the UKIPP banner than a Lib/Dem or did I read somewhere from his new leader Farage that it will be NEWKIP? No wonder politicians have a bad name- pure self interest.
Mind you it has attracted all sorts of strange bedfellows so what is new?

Their "strong stance in Europe" is that they never turn up to vote with the excuse why support something they don't belive in. I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration, very similar to the extreme right wing politicians in France under Penn. Locally I will also be interested in how his new party will make the cuts due to £millions taken by Central Government especially his "fresh approach and new ideas".
@Bill Bradbury
"I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration"

More grammar schools
Flat simplified tax rate
Abolish NICs
No tax for those on minimum wage
Drop HS2
Drop "green" taxes
Reinstate border controls
Flat rate of tax millionaires will vote for that, me no as they want to increase vat to pay for it seeing as vat will take more off me them what i pay now in tax counts me out

Abolish NIC thats not for working people if you work you will still be paying NIC if you employ people eg millionaire factory owner you will not pay employers NIC contributions so that counts me a working man out

NHS they want to cut the NHS sell vouchers so you can jump the queues which under there policy for the NHS will be bigger a rich persons policy again, for the working man i think not

Then again who are their funders mainly ex tory
[quote][p][bold]AbsolutelyPassionate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful. Rats and sinking ships and bandwagons come to mind and an eye on the local elections (Lib/Dems hardly figured in the recent Billinge & eneley Green election) that he may have a better chance of being re-elected as a Cllr. under the UKIPP banner than a Lib/Dem or did I read somewhere from his new leader Farage that it will be NEWKIP? No wonder politicians have a bad name- pure self interest. Mind you it has attracted all sorts of strange bedfellows so what is new? Their "strong stance in Europe" is that they never turn up to vote with the excuse why support something they don't belive in. I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration, very similar to the extreme right wing politicians in France under Penn. Locally I will also be interested in how his new party will make the cuts due to £millions taken by Central Government especially his "fresh approach and new ideas".[/p][/quote]@Bill Bradbury "I will be interested in their manifesto at the next General Election on issues other than Europe and Immigration" More grammar schools Flat simplified tax rate Abolish NICs No tax for those on minimum wage Drop HS2 Drop "green" taxes Reinstate border controls[/p][/quote]Flat rate of tax millionaires will vote for that, me no as they want to increase vat to pay for it seeing as vat will take more off me them what i pay now in tax counts me out Abolish NIC thats not for working people if you work you will still be paying NIC if you employ people eg millionaire factory owner you will not pay employers NIC contributions so that counts me a working man out NHS they want to cut the NHS sell vouchers so you can jump the queues which under there policy for the NHS will be bigger a rich persons policy again, for the working man i think not Then again who are their funders mainly ex tory chasmcn

8:09am Sat 1 Feb 14

And Justice For All says...

Just calling it how I see it Bill. You've contradicted yourself after saying on another topic you wont make personal comments and then do exactly that on this topic! Oh how dare I pull you up on that eh? ooh mustn't upset the local Labour standard bearer should we?
Just calling it how I see it Bill. You've contradicted yourself after saying on another topic you wont make personal comments and then do exactly that on this topic! Oh how dare I pull you up on that eh? ooh mustn't upset the local Labour standard bearer should we? And Justice For All

9:08am Sat 1 Feb 14

Bill Bradbury says...

And Justice For All wrote:
Just calling it how I see it Bill. You've contradicted yourself after saying on another topic you wont make personal comments and then do exactly that on this topic! Oh how dare I pull you up on that eh? ooh mustn't upset the local Labour standard bearer should we?
You may be right on this. I cannot see how junping ship is not a blatent attempt to get elected as his previous party is coming nowhere in the polls. It is the same as my good Tory friends on this site decide to suddenly become Labour in order to get power and elected.

I repeat it's blatent opportunism and in that sense I plead guilty.
[quote][p][bold]And Justice For All[/bold] wrote: Just calling it how I see it Bill. You've contradicted yourself after saying on another topic you wont make personal comments and then do exactly that on this topic! Oh how dare I pull you up on that eh? ooh mustn't upset the local Labour standard bearer should we?[/p][/quote]You may be right on this. I cannot see how junping ship is not a blatent attempt to get elected as his previous party is coming nowhere in the polls. It is the same as my good Tory friends on this site decide to suddenly become Labour in order to get power and elected. I repeat it's blatent opportunism and in that sense I plead guilty. Bill Bradbury

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