St Helens town centre bars scrap 2am closure pilot

St Helens Star: Bars will revert to normal times this weekend Bars will revert to normal times this weekend

ST HELENS bars will resume their normal opening patterns this weekend after a month-long pilot scheme that trialled 2am closures was cut short.

Licensees on the pubwatch committee met earlier this week and decided that earlier closures was not working.

Bars had collectively agreed to explore the effects of 2am closures after encouragement from the police last year.

The trial centred on getting people “to go out earlier”.

But it is understood bars, taxi firms and takeaways had mounting concerns about the system once it was in place.

Since the relaxation of licensing laws in 2005, bars have been able to open beyond what was the traditional drinking up time of 11pm for pubs or 2am for nightclubs.

A number of bars in the town centre normally open until 3am at weekends and some use temporary event notices until 5am.

But it is believed bars feared reverting to 2am was making St Helens less attractive to younger customers who are used to starting their nights out late, resulting in them heading to the cities or neighbouring towns.

Dex Nelson, a DJ who has worked on the St Helens nightlife scene for decades, said: “For some the night was just getting going between 1am and 1.30am and then it was nearly closing time.

“I personally don’t see the need for bars to be open until 6am but 2am was too soon.”

Chief Inspector Martin Woosey said: “The licensees have the made the decision – at the end of the day it was their initiative. It will be back to normal from now on.

“It is disappointing (that it has stopped early) and would have been nice to run the full course but I can understand that it is a business issue.

“Town did seem to clear a lot quicker on each of the nights (when there was a 2am) closure.”

In December officers rejected suggestions they had pushed for earlier closure times to try and quell incidents of violence or disorder that run through the early hours.

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10:06am Fri 24 Jan 14

frankly says...

load of crap.. 2 a/m should be late enough for anyone, and let emergency services attend to more important things than vomiting/fighting drunks until daylight
load of crap.. 2 a/m should be late enough for anyone, and let emergency services attend to more important things than vomiting/fighting drunks until daylight frankly

10:54am Fri 24 Jan 14

smith&weston says...

For a town that carps on about the need for food banks in this day and age, it's amazing how many people still have the money to want to be out past 2 am to indulge in endless drinking .
For a town that carps on about the need for food banks in this day and age, it's amazing how many people still have the money to want to be out past 2 am to indulge in endless drinking . smith&weston

11:25am Fri 24 Jan 14

fatherjessup says...

Licensees not making enough money 'eh. Lets squeeze another couple of hours out of the mindless morons drinking themselves stupid.
Lets leave them to police, ambulance crews and taxi drivers to mop up the mess.
Licensees not making enough money 'eh. Lets squeeze another couple of hours out of the mindless morons drinking themselves stupid. Lets leave them to police, ambulance crews and taxi drivers to mop up the mess. fatherjessup

11:58am Fri 24 Jan 14

frankly says...

I am having the sixth week of an eight week vacation here in Switzerland, never seen any drunks, or heard sirens, in fact hardly seen a copper anywhere.. Difference being, here locals, socialise not get legless and want to try and be hard men. And I can venture out alone day and night
I am having the sixth week of an eight week vacation here in Switzerland, never seen any drunks, or heard sirens, in fact hardly seen a copper anywhere.. Difference being, here locals, socialise not get legless and want to try and be hard men. And I can venture out alone day and night frankly

4:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Frankly how much for a can in the supermarket
Frankly how much for a can in the supermarket jumperr

6:03pm Fri 24 Jan 14

frankly says...

here in Switzerland over £2/50 at u/k rate.. I can see where you are coming from Jumper
here in Switzerland over £2/50 at u/k rate.. I can see where you are coming from Jumper frankly

7:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Cheers frankly,but as you know we can't seem to see organise a in a brewery enjoy your last fortnight. One thing in common we hardly see a copper .
Cheers frankly,but as you know we can't seem to see organise a in a brewery enjoy your last fortnight. One thing in common we hardly see a copper . jumperr

10:44pm Fri 24 Jan 14

tisfortom says...

A month is not nearly long enough to get people to change their drinking habits.. knee jerk reaction because bars are not taking as much money.. town centre has too many bars and if a few were to close then maybe we could get back to having a few more shops which would be open more than 2 days a week
A month is not nearly long enough to get people to change their drinking habits.. knee jerk reaction because bars are not taking as much money.. town centre has too many bars and if a few were to close then maybe we could get back to having a few more shops which would be open more than 2 days a week tisfortom

3:22pm Sat 25 Jan 14

sherlock1 says...

About time too not everyone goes out to get drunk you know and it's not like it's a recent problem is it?
About time too not everyone goes out to get drunk you know and it's not like it's a recent problem is it? sherlock1

11:55am Tue 28 Jan 14

cap-end says...

Why let it bother you . If you want to go home at 2 am then go home , if you want to stay out then stay out .
I would never do a big shop in asdas at 3 am because I'm not a moron who thinks it's easier , that said I'd never whinge about it being open 24 hrs a day.
Why let it bother you . If you want to go home at 2 am then go home , if you want to stay out then stay out . I would never do a big shop in asdas at 3 am because I'm not a moron who thinks it's easier , that said I'd never whinge about it being open 24 hrs a day. cap-end

2:46pm Tue 28 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Dosnt bother some shopping at early morning
Dosnt bother some shopping at early morning jumperr

11:18am Thu 30 Jan 14

frankly says...

when we had earlier pubs/clubs closing then the emergency teams could do their jobs and not worry about sheperding the braindead until daylight... I don't care if you are unemployed or employed, drinkers still have plenty of time EARLIER to imbibe,
when we had earlier pubs/clubs closing then the emergency teams could do their jobs and not worry about sheperding the braindead until daylight... I don't care if you are unemployed or employed, drinkers still have plenty of time EARLIER to imbibe, frankly

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