Will skateboarders be banned from Church Square?

Will skateboarders be banned from Church Square?

Will skateboarders be banned from Church Square?

First published in News

SKATEBOARDERS could be banned from Church Square after reports of damage to buildings and a number of “near misses” with pedestrians.

Police submitted a file of evidence to St Helens safer communities team last year requesting a bye law that would restrict the activity in parts of the town centre.

Officers have described a growing issue with youngsters gathering on the pedestrian zone, near St Helens Parish Church over the past 18 months.

Now a consultation process – which is to set to include youngsters who use the area – is to take place.

Large crowds of skateboarders often gathered there, particularly in the early evenings.

Many are said to be well behaved, but it is believed there have been occasions where youngsters performing acrobatic twists and turns have come close to colliding with pensioners who gather to use the square’s benches.

Police have also linked the presence of youths to criminal damage, abusive language and drug use.

The Star understands there have also been concerns that the skateboards cause damage to benches and stonework in the square.

A report put before the Safer Communities scrutiny panel at St Helens Council read: “Whilst it is recognised by Merseyside Police and the Community Safety Partnership (CSP) that there are young people who attend the area who cause no problems, the police have experienced difficulties in dealing with some of the group as they have no specific powers to move skateboarders away.

“Over this period, anti-social behaviour and criminal acts have been reported to the police, which have included criminal damage (graffiti & smashed glass in various business premises), possession of controlled drugs, the use of abusive language and ‘near misses’ between elderly pedestrians and skateboarders.

“It is the behaviour of some of the skateboarders that has the potential to cause injury to others that is of a concern.

“The neighbourhood staff responsible for policing the town centre reports difficulties dealing with the volume of people attending the area, including cyclists, who appear to be in the area in support of skateboarders.

“In July 2013, Merseyside Police submitted a file of evidence to Safer Communities proposing a bye law to prohibit the use of skateboarding at various locations within the Town Centre.

“As of December 2013, this proposal is still under consideration. Consultation is now underway with various stakeholders including the young people who use the town centre, local ward councillors and departmental heads within CYPS.”

The findings of the consultation will be reported back to St Helens Council in the near future before a decision is taken.

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7:43pm Wed 22 Jan 14

It's all a blur says...

About time something was done, they're a nuisance! Various occasions I have seen some elderly and young children almost hit when these lot have been doing their acrobatics.

I agree with moving them but give them somewhere that they can go to in place of where they hang out.
About time something was done, they're a nuisance! Various occasions I have seen some elderly and young children almost hit when these lot have been doing their acrobatics. I agree with moving them but give them somewhere that they can go to in place of where they hang out. It's all a blur
  • Score: 10

10:57pm Wed 22 Jan 14

jumperr says...

There is laws that cover that type of activity in pedestrian areas,but as usual all round the world and do nothing.
There is laws that cover that type of activity in pedestrian areas,but as usual all round the world and do nothing. jumperr
  • Score: 2

12:11am Thu 23 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

There's a skate park at Sherdley Park. I agree they are generally well behaved , and I'm not sure where the police link drugs and abusive behavior to the skaters , I haven't seen any of that - but it's not really helping the town centre attract new customers , the threat of being rattled by an emo skater.

Plus what's all this consultation baloney? There's other facilities for them to use , I've boxed all m ylife , but I don't go around town centres punching things!! More New Labour "equality" tripe. Just move them on!

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There you go , they should count themselves lucky - Rainhill and Eccleston park haven't had 60k spent on them in their entire history !!
There's a skate park at Sherdley Park. I agree they are generally well behaved , and I'm not sure where the police link drugs and abusive behavior to the skaters , I haven't seen any of that - but it's not really helping the town centre attract new customers , the threat of being rattled by an emo skater. Plus what's all this consultation baloney? There's other facilities for them to use , I've boxed all m ylife , but I don't go around town centres punching things!! More New Labour "equality" tripe. Just move them on! http://www.sthelenss tar.co.uk/news/10418 437.Youths_await_ope ning_of___59_000_ska tepark/?action=compl ain&cid=11605595 There you go , they should count themselves lucky - Rainhill and Eccleston park haven't had 60k spent on them in their entire history !! barrie timpson
  • Score: 11

10:16am Thu 23 Jan 14

Thurman says...

What other facility's?
What other facility's? Thurman
  • Score: -5

11:07am Thu 23 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

The skate facilities at Finger post (in the link above) and the skate facility at Sherdley park. I think there is one in Cowley and Victoria park has a skate facility.
The skate facilities at Finger post (in the link above) and the skate facility at Sherdley park. I think there is one in Cowley and Victoria park has a skate facility. barrie timpson
  • Score: 7

11:59am Thu 23 Jan 14

Thurman says...

So long as every skater lives in said areas then or has a car or even a never ending supply of bus fare
problem solved
So long as every skater lives in said areas then or has a car or even a never ending supply of bus fare problem solved Thurman
  • Score: -11

1:32pm Thu 23 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

Well considering I could throw a skateboard from the town centre to the one at fingerpost I think the ones using the town centre will be OK walking that far.
Well considering I could throw a skateboard from the town centre to the one at fingerpost I think the ones using the town centre will be OK walking that far. barrie timpson
  • Score: 10

1:57pm Thu 23 Jan 14

othervictim says...

I would like to see a few cyclists prosecuted for their antics around the pedestrian areas of the town, these louts ride with impunity and never appear to be spoken to by police in the Town Centre.
I would like to see a few cyclists prosecuted for their antics around the pedestrian areas of the town, these louts ride with impunity and never appear to be spoken to by police in the Town Centre. othervictim
  • Score: 12

2:41pm Thu 23 Jan 14

jumperr says...

If they wanted to sort it out they could ,excuses all the time we really should look at our elected,any shred of the reason for their position should be scrutinised ASAP
If they wanted to sort it out they could ,excuses all the time we really should look at our elected,any shred of the reason for their position should be scrutinised ASAP jumperr
  • Score: 6

3:07pm Thu 23 Jan 14

jumperr says...

ball games, skate boarding, alcohol
restrictions, misuse of public space( St. Helens asb website)
ball games, skate boarding, alcohol restrictions, misuse of public space( St. Helens asb website) jumperr
  • Score: 3

4:54pm Thu 23 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

I know jumper , but we have to be careful we don't upset the "skating community" or violate their human rights.
I know jumper , but we have to be careful we don't upset the "skating community" or violate their human rights. barrie timpson
  • Score: 10

5:03pm Thu 23 Jan 14

frankly says...

they are a nuisance, but again a weak council..do you see it in the town centres at wigan/warrington or widnes.. no...need I go further
they are a nuisance, but again a weak council..do you see it in the town centres at wigan/warrington or widnes.. no...need I go further frankly
  • Score: 9

5:58pm Thu 23 Jan 14

It's all a blur says...

I personally have never seen the drugs or alcohol or even the vandalism, maybe some of the group have done things like this but most of them just stick within their group, yes they are a nuisance and get in people's way and some people would be intimidated by them just going off how they look and dress, but they do no harm. Those few giving them all a bad name need dealing with. Fingerpost might not be too bad for them, but it may not be as easy to access for some of them depending where they come from, there must be a reason they congregate where they do?
I personally have never seen the drugs or alcohol or even the vandalism, maybe some of the group have done things like this but most of them just stick within their group, yes they are a nuisance and get in people's way and some people would be intimidated by them just going off how they look and dress, but they do no harm. Those few giving them all a bad name need dealing with. Fingerpost might not be too bad for them, but it may not be as easy to access for some of them depending where they come from, there must be a reason they congregate where they do? It's all a blur
  • Score: -6

8:48pm Thu 23 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

If nothing else they are a danger to themselves , concrete doesn't cushion your fall.
I can't believe there's a massive issue over skaters and skate parks , it's not as popular as other sports yet we have 4 or 5 skateparks , that's not bad going really for a fringe activity - the least they could do is use them.
If nothing else they are a danger to themselves , concrete doesn't cushion your fall. I can't believe there's a massive issue over skaters and skate parks , it's not as popular as other sports yet we have 4 or 5 skateparks , that's not bad going really for a fringe activity - the least they could do is use them. barrie timpson
  • Score: 7

8:55am Fri 24 Jan 14

Thurman says...

barrie timpson wrote:
If nothing else they are a danger to themselves , concrete doesn't cushion your fall.
I can't believe there's a massive issue over skaters and skate parks , it's not as popular as other sports yet we have 4 or 5 skateparks , that's not bad going really for a fringe activity - the least they could do is use them.
concrete doesn't cushion your fall.


Good luck trying to skate over grass
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: If nothing else they are a danger to themselves , concrete doesn't cushion your fall. I can't believe there's a massive issue over skaters and skate parks , it's not as popular as other sports yet we have 4 or 5 skateparks , that's not bad going really for a fringe activity - the least they could do is use them.[/p][/quote]concrete doesn't cushion your fall. Good luck trying to skate over grass Thurman
  • Score: -1

9:48am Fri 24 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

Thurman wrote:
barrie timpson wrote:
If nothing else they are a danger to themselves , concrete doesn't cushion your fall.
I can't believe there's a massive issue over skaters and skate parks , it's not as popular as other sports yet we have 4 or 5 skateparks , that's not bad going really for a fringe activity - the least they could do is use them.
concrete doesn't cushion your fall.


Good luck trying to skate over grass
I smell disillusioned socialist here , don't take it out on me because you can't spell "facilities".

Skate on or over?
[quote][p][bold]Thurman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: If nothing else they are a danger to themselves , concrete doesn't cushion your fall. I can't believe there's a massive issue over skaters and skate parks , it's not as popular as other sports yet we have 4 or 5 skateparks , that's not bad going really for a fringe activity - the least they could do is use them.[/p][/quote]concrete doesn't cushion your fall. Good luck trying to skate over grass[/p][/quote]I smell disillusioned socialist here , don't take it out on me because you can't spell "facilities". Skate on or over? barrie timpson
  • Score: 2

10:26am Fri 24 Jan 14

jumperr says...

The police a number of yrs ago along with the council would have nothing to do with bye laws what's change. Mr Hogan Howe said you do not need them anymore has everything is covered in new legislation .
The police a number of yrs ago along with the council would have nothing to do with bye laws what's change. Mr Hogan Howe said you do not need them anymore has everything is covered in new legislation . jumperr
  • Score: 3

11:00am Fri 24 Jan 14

Thurman says...

My apologies,all that falling off my skateboard onto my head has left me lazy with my spelling ,if only I could skate on or over grass!
And as for taking it out on you,I'm only questioning your ridiculous and constantly negative comments
My apologies,all that falling off my skateboard onto my head has left me lazy with my spelling ,if only I could skate on or over grass! And as for taking it out on you,I'm only questioning your ridiculous and constantly negative comments Thurman
  • Score: -5

1:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

Do you have anything to contribute to the debate? Because you're just asking me questions , you can do that via facebook.

If you find it negative that I think they are generally well behaved, and ridiculous that they should use one of four skating facilities provided instead of a town centre full off pedestrians then maybe you could come up with a solution all by yourself?
Do you have anything to contribute to the debate? Because you're just asking me questions , you can do that via facebook. If you find it negative that I think they are generally well behaved, and ridiculous that they should use one of four skating facilities provided instead of a town centre full off pedestrians then maybe you could come up with a solution all by yourself? barrie timpson
  • Score: 3

4:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

And Justice For All says...

I agree totally that they should be using the skate parks as they're SO lucky to have them, but let's think about this.
Surely there are more pressing matters in the town. If we want to follow this sort of route with the town, let's ban mobility scooters. I've been clipped and had more near misses with these than I have with skateboarders. How about those skinny, no waisted, alchy rats on their robbed mountain bikes in the town, been nearly taken out by them too, plus the police bikers too. While we're at it, let's have a pop at wheelchair users shall we, cloggin up space on the street and nearly colliding with people. I'm being sarcastic of course here but you can see my point. Where do you draw the line? They've been given facilities to use but they also need to go into the town too. This "problem" has been around for years, since the skateboards invention and yet suddenly its a problem? As for damage to buildings, hmm yes, those bits of wood and wheels have taken down so many multi storey car parks haven't they. It's more than likely some councellors been upset by one of these kids more than them causing a danger and thats why we're here talking banning them now.
Let's concentrate on the bigger issues shall we people and not get sidetracked by these petty ones.
I agree totally that they should be using the skate parks as they're SO lucky to have them, but let's think about this. Surely there are more pressing matters in the town. If we want to follow this sort of route with the town, let's ban mobility scooters. I've been clipped and had more near misses with these than I have with skateboarders. How about those skinny, no waisted, alchy rats on their robbed mountain bikes in the town, been nearly taken out by them too, plus the police bikers too. While we're at it, let's have a pop at wheelchair users shall we, cloggin up space on the street and nearly colliding with people. I'm being sarcastic of course here but you can see my point. Where do you draw the line? They've been given facilities to use but they also need to go into the town too. This "problem" has been around for years, since the skateboards invention and yet suddenly its a problem? As for damage to buildings, hmm yes, those bits of wood and wheels have taken down so many multi storey car parks haven't they. It's more than likely some councellors been upset by one of these kids more than them causing a danger and thats why we're here talking banning them now. Let's concentrate on the bigger issues shall we people and not get sidetracked by these petty ones. And Justice For All
  • Score: 2

4:43pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Petty ones cause bigger ones it is a shopping precinct and should be treated has such would be the way to go
Petty ones cause bigger ones it is a shopping precinct and should be treated has such would be the way to go jumperr
  • Score: -2

4:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

And Justice For All says...

jumperr wrote:
Petty ones cause bigger ones it is a shopping precinct and should be treated has such would be the way to go
So, excluding a section of society from it is right is it?
Petty issues such as this merely distract from the bigger ones.
[quote][p][bold]jumperr[/bold] wrote: Petty ones cause bigger ones it is a shopping precinct and should be treated has such would be the way to go[/p][/quote]So, excluding a section of society from it is right is it? Petty issues such as this merely distract from the bigger ones. And Justice For All
  • Score: 0

6:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

frankly says...

not excluding, they have skateboard parks, not too far away, and being young should be able to get to one..mobility scooters/wheelchairs are needed, skateboards are not...
not excluding, they have skateboard parks, not too far away, and being young should be able to get to one..mobility scooters/wheelchairs are needed, skateboards are not... frankly
  • Score: 1

8:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Excluding nobody, just a piece of wood with roller skates on ,shopping precinct for shopping,skateboard for (work it out )
Excluding nobody, just a piece of wood with roller skates on ,shopping precinct for shopping,skateboard for (work it out ) jumperr
  • Score: 1

8:45pm Fri 24 Jan 14

And Justice For All says...

I dont need to work anything out Jumper. Speaking from experience, I have never seen any problems with the skateboarders that are in/around Church Square. Telling a section of society they cannot go in a certain area because of their chosen hobby IS excluding them, it's no wonder our youth have a problem with authority when people have this attitude.
Skateboarders have been around for years and yet all of a sudden theres a problem?! I was one myself years ago and there were NO facilities in the area to go to yet no one was after banning us from areas.
Frankly, if you read my comment properly you will see that I was being sarcastic about mobility scooters (which mostly are used by lazy arsed people from what I've seen) and wheelchairs. They are needed yes but you can bet as soon as one clips a counsellor (or a close relatives) they'll be calling for kerbs on them too.
I dont need to work anything out Jumper. Speaking from experience, I have never seen any problems with the skateboarders that are in/around Church Square. Telling a section of society they cannot go in a certain area because of their chosen hobby IS excluding them, it's no wonder our youth have a problem with authority when people have this attitude. Skateboarders have been around for years and yet all of a sudden theres a problem?! I was one myself years ago and there were NO facilities in the area to go to yet no one was after banning us from areas. Frankly, if you read my comment properly you will see that I was being sarcastic about mobility scooters (which mostly are used by lazy arsed people from what I've seen) and wheelchairs. They are needed yes but you can bet as soon as one clips a counsellor (or a close relatives) they'll be calling for kerbs on them too. And Justice For All
  • Score: 7

9:52pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jumperr says...

If the mother gave then a shopping list and said go to town and get these for me why you are flying past they would be out the door straight away, come on it s not a place for that.
If the mother gave then a shopping list and said go to town and get these for me why you are flying past they would be out the door straight away, come on it s not a place for that. jumperr
  • Score: -5

11:32pm Sat 25 Jan 14

well then says...

As a member of the group that includes the skateboarders, I can tell you now that the damage to property and drug use isn't done by us. It's done by the 'chavs' that come down from Liverpool or fellow st Helens natives that cause havoc, hurtle abuse at passers by, smoking weed out in the open, laughing in the faces of community support officers but nothing is being done about them!
As a member of the group that includes the skateboarders, I can tell you now that the damage to property and drug use isn't done by us. It's done by the 'chavs' that come down from Liverpool or fellow st Helens natives that cause havoc, hurtle abuse at passers by, smoking weed out in the open, laughing in the faces of community support officers but nothing is being done about them! well then
  • Score: 0

8:53am Sun 26 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Well then ,well said you've nailed part of the problem ,or the problem itself,lack of action in all areas
Well then ,well said you've nailed part of the problem ,or the problem itself,lack of action in all areas jumperr
  • Score: 1

8:56am Sun 26 Jan 14

saintsfan says...

Yes, ban them please. They are a pain in the backside. And if teenagers are so lazy that they can't stroll 10 minutes to Victoria Park where there is a perfectly good skateboarding facility then that's their problem, not mine. A pedestrianised area is no place for skateboarders or cyclists (who enjoy doing wheelies) and there is plenty of space very local to the town centre for them to burn off their boredom.
Yes, ban them please. They are a pain in the backside. And if teenagers are so lazy that they can't stroll 10 minutes to Victoria Park where there is a perfectly good skateboarding facility then that's their problem, not mine. A pedestrianised area is no place for skateboarders or cyclists (who enjoy doing wheelies) and there is plenty of space very local to the town centre for them to burn off their boredom. saintsfan
  • Score: -5

11:29am Sun 26 Jan 14

jumperr says...

If you notice July 2013 going on for seven mths to come up with something to do about it, (if we keep putting it off people will get fed up and stop trying to make us do something about making the borough a better place to live) always seems to be what happens when problems occur.
If you notice July 2013 going on for seven mths to come up with something to do about it, (if we keep putting it off people will get fed up and stop trying to make us do something about making the borough a better place to live) always seems to be what happens when problems occur. jumperr
  • Score: 0

11:40am Sun 26 Jan 14

theDarkShivers says...

I would just like to say my brother is one of these "nuisances". A major reason for them not going elsewhere is because of the location of these other skating facilities. They're out of the way and not many people populate the area, so when the dear old chavs come then they start to feel intimidated and threatens. These chavs are the ones that cause the graffiti and damage in town more do than the skaters. I agree that they shouldn't do it in town but I'd rather not have my brother coming home cos some drunk, drugged up chav has hit him when he's been skating at the park.
I would just like to say my brother is one of these "nuisances". A major reason for them not going elsewhere is because of the location of these other skating facilities. They're out of the way and not many people populate the area, so when the dear old chavs come then they start to feel intimidated and threatens. These chavs are the ones that cause the graffiti and damage in town more do than the skaters. I agree that they shouldn't do it in town but I'd rather not have my brother coming home cos some drunk, drugged up chav has hit him when he's been skating at the park. theDarkShivers
  • Score: 1

12:51pm Sun 26 Jan 14

othervictim says...

Maybe skatebpoarding is a sport and anyone who says anything against sport in this town is a traitor to society and has to be silenced,
Maybe skatebpoarding is a sport and anyone who says anything against sport in this town is a traitor to society and has to be silenced, othervictim
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Sun 26 Jan 14

jumperr says...

Problem gets bigger
Problem gets bigger jumperr
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Sun 26 Jan 14

barrie timpson says...

I'm going to buy a skateboard. I'm fed up with boxing.
I'm going to buy a skateboard. I'm fed up with boxing. barrie timpson
  • Score: 5

9:11pm Sun 26 Jan 14

moonman77 says...

Does nobody grasp this? We are trying to encourage people into our town. The type that spends money.
Now a senario. Your first time in our town with family in tow. You park up at Chalon Way,. Walk past Parish Church and youths come skateboarding past you making the racket they do along with the intimidation normally of their hoodie type outfit. ... The first time visitors, with money burning a hole in their pocket, takes a look, turns around, gets back in their car and goes somewhere more civilised where they revere their town centre. I know I would. Its all about impressions. First ones especially.
Does nobody grasp this? We are trying to encourage people into our town. The type that spends money. Now a senario. Your first time in our town with family in tow. You park up at Chalon Way,. Walk past Parish Church and youths come skateboarding past you making the racket they do along with the intimidation normally of their hoodie type outfit. ... The first time visitors, with money burning a hole in their pocket, takes a look, turns around, gets back in their car and goes somewhere more civilised where they revere their town centre. I know I would. Its all about impressions. First ones especially. moonman77
  • Score: 2

10:36pm Sun 26 Jan 14

jumperr says...

moonman77, exactly went to liverpool picking up of the ferry same thing out side their
moonman77, exactly went to liverpool picking up of the ferry same thing out side their jumperr
  • Score: 1

9:36am Mon 27 Jan 14

And Justice For All says...

I purposely went to the town at the weekend and was in Church Square at various different times of day. I saw 3 skateboarders, each one was walking around the shops and not "causing a nuiscance". What I DID see was about 5 "people" sat outside the church on the kerbs, involved in what I would describe as a "wine club" to be polite. These people were being loud, obnoxious and swearing as families walked past with kids. Now, who is the nuiscance? A kid on skateboard, not disturbing anyone or this bunch of chavs drinking their lives away, upsetting the area and families within it. Even if the kids were skateboarding, what would you rather have p155ed up alchy chavs dragging the place down, or young people full of energy dispelling the misconception that all kids are useless, lazy troublemakers?
I purposely went to the town at the weekend and was in Church Square at various different times of day. I saw 3 skateboarders, each one was walking around the shops and not "causing a nuiscance". What I DID see was about 5 "people" sat outside the church on the kerbs, involved in what I would describe as a "wine club" to be polite. These people were being loud, obnoxious and swearing as families walked past with kids. Now, who is the nuiscance? A kid on skateboard, not disturbing anyone or this bunch of chavs drinking their lives away, upsetting the area and families within it. Even if the kids were skateboarding, what would you rather have p155ed up alchy chavs dragging the place down, or young people full of energy dispelling the misconception that all kids are useless, lazy troublemakers? And Justice For All
  • Score: 6

10:13am Mon 27 Jan 14

jumperr says...

No wonder nothing gets sorted out
No wonder nothing gets sorted out jumperr
  • Score: -2

8:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Princeandrew says...

If the council would stop wasting money on poorly designed and constructed attempts at skateparks then this wouldn't be an issue. But no they don't. The consultation and approach they used to build the facility at Victoria park was a joke at best and corrupt at worse. The tax payers of St Helens were royally ripped off on that one, and i can't believe that the same people have built the abomination in finger post.

All the surrounding towns (apart from Widnes currently) have excellent facilities that are giving all ages an appropriate environment to express themselves and develop their skills in their chosen activities, and also drawing in people from all around the north west in Warringtons case.

In this day and age of obese unhealthly ,children, those who want to do something active outside should be encouraged not penalised.
If the council would stop wasting money on poorly designed and constructed attempts at skateparks then this wouldn't be an issue. But no they don't. The consultation and approach they used to build the facility at Victoria park was a joke at best and corrupt at worse. The tax payers of St Helens were royally ripped off on that one, and i can't believe that the same people have built the abomination in finger post. All the surrounding towns (apart from Widnes currently) have excellent facilities that are giving all ages an appropriate environment to express themselves and develop their skills in their chosen activities, and also drawing in people from all around the north west in Warringtons case. In this day and age of obese unhealthly ,children, those who want to do something active outside should be encouraged not penalised. Princeandrew
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Mon 27 Jan 14

jumperr says...

The town that somebody built,complete rubbish wk in wk out
The town that somebody built,complete rubbish wk in wk out jumperr
  • Score: 0

7:15pm Tue 28 Jan 14

saintsfan says...

theDarkShivers wrote:
I would just like to say my brother is one of these "nuisances". A major reason for them not going elsewhere is because of the location of these other skating facilities. They're out of the way and not many people populate the area, so when the dear old chavs come then they start to feel intimidated and threatens. These chavs are the ones that cause the graffiti and damage in town more do than the skaters. I agree that they shouldn't do it in town but I'd rather not have my brother coming home cos some drunk, drugged up chav has hit him when he's been skating at the park.
I doubt your brother would feel intimidated in the size of group that often congregates early evening in the town centre.
[quote][p][bold]theDarkShivers[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say my brother is one of these "nuisances". A major reason for them not going elsewhere is because of the location of these other skating facilities. They're out of the way and not many people populate the area, so when the dear old chavs come then they start to feel intimidated and threatens. These chavs are the ones that cause the graffiti and damage in town more do than the skaters. I agree that they shouldn't do it in town but I'd rather not have my brother coming home cos some drunk, drugged up chav has hit him when he's been skating at the park.[/p][/quote]I doubt your brother would feel intimidated in the size of group that often congregates early evening in the town centre. saintsfan
  • Score: 0

8:19pm Thu 6 Feb 14

theDarkShivers says...

saintsfan wrote:
theDarkShivers wrote:
I would just like to say my brother is one of these "nuisances". A major reason for them not going elsewhere is because of the location of these other skating facilities. They're out of the way and not many people populate the area, so when the dear old chavs come then they start to feel intimidated and threatens. These chavs are the ones that cause the graffiti and damage in town more do than the skaters. I agree that they shouldn't do it in town but I'd rather not have my brother coming home cos some drunk, drugged up chav has hit him when he's been skating at the park.
I doubt your brother would feel intimidated in the size of group that often congregates early evening in the town centre.
They aren't all part of his friends group. His group of friends are aged 12-16. He himself being 13. If a group of drunk/high chavs, who are usually aged 15+ and in groups of 5+, who are usually bigger build wise and more aggressive, come up to a group of skinny 13-16 year old skater kids, who's coming out on top? I think you know the answer to that.
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theDarkShivers[/bold] wrote: I would just like to say my brother is one of these "nuisances". A major reason for them not going elsewhere is because of the location of these other skating facilities. They're out of the way and not many people populate the area, so when the dear old chavs come then they start to feel intimidated and threatens. These chavs are the ones that cause the graffiti and damage in town more do than the skaters. I agree that they shouldn't do it in town but I'd rather not have my brother coming home cos some drunk, drugged up chav has hit him when he's been skating at the park.[/p][/quote]I doubt your brother would feel intimidated in the size of group that often congregates early evening in the town centre.[/p][/quote]They aren't all part of his friends group. His group of friends are aged 12-16. He himself being 13. If a group of drunk/high chavs, who are usually aged 15+ and in groups of 5+, who are usually bigger build wise and more aggressive, come up to a group of skinny 13-16 year old skater kids, who's coming out on top? I think you know the answer to that. theDarkShivers
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