Not good enough: Secondary school standards in St Helens falling short

St Helens Star: Council leader Barrie Grunewald has pledged to improve education in St Helens Council leader Barrie Grunewald has pledged to improve education in St Helens

THE performance of secondary schools in St Helens is lagging behind those in neighbouring towns and cities, Ofsted inspectors have underlined.

A report shows that just 47 per cent of pupils in the borough attend a secondary school that is ‘good’ or ‘outstanding’.

And while the performances of primaries are generally strong – 89 per cent of pupils attending good or outstanding schools – there is concern about why the standard of education dips at high schools.

The figure at secondary level is in stark contrast with the percentage of pupils attending good or outstanding schools in Warrington (75 per cent), Liverpool (82 per cent) and Wigan (81 per cent).

In Ofsted’s annual report, Michael Cladingbowl, regional director North West, wrote: “For too many pupils, reaching the age of 11 can mark the end of access to a good education.

“In Blackpool, Salford, Tameside and St Helens, children have less than a one in two chance of attending a good or outstanding secondary school.”

Council leader Barrie Grunewald has made the issue a priority and set up an Education Task Group aimed at driving up standards.

Only Haydock, Rainhill and Cowley were ranked as good schools following the most recent inspections. The town does not have one outstanding school.

Cllr Grunewald said: “Ofsted’s annual report raises a number of issues that our schools are taking very seriously and working hard to resolve.

“I am personally committed to ensuring that the local authority challenges poor performance. Our secondary schools are obviously working hard to replicate the performance of our primary schools, where 89 per cent of pupils attend good or outstanding schools – substantially higher than the national average.

“Yet many of our secondary schools – including Rainford and Haydock Secondary Schools – are already showing considerable improvement.

“So we will be looking closely at Ofsted’s report and will continue to challenge the performance of each of our secondary schools and work with them to ensure they deliver the best possible education.

“The Ofsted report is important and acts as a reminder that we must do more to drive standards up but it does not take account of the fact that our A-level results are good, many children are the first in their families to go to university or that the borough’s apprenticeship scheme is delivering relevant skills to hundreds of young people.”

The Education Task Force will report next year.

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1:39pm Thu 19 Dec 13

And Justice For All says...

Well done Bazza. Way to spot the obvious there fella! Yes education is not good enough in many secondary schools in this area, but isn't that partly down to you and your cronies in the council too? It's called an Education Department and they're responsible to ensuring schools are effective. Why hasn't that dept been cleared out? If people fail to do a job where I work, they get sacked. Stop passing the whole blame onto the schools themselves and take some responsibility for your own failings. Surely you can "amend" the results as I believe you sir are so adept at doing?
Well done Bazza. Way to spot the obvious there fella! Yes education is not good enough in many secondary schools in this area, but isn't that partly down to you and your cronies in the council too? It's called an Education Department and they're responsible to ensuring schools are effective. Why hasn't that dept been cleared out? If people fail to do a job where I work, they get sacked. Stop passing the whole blame onto the schools themselves and take some responsibility for your own failings. Surely you can "amend" the results as I believe you sir are so adept at doing? And Justice For All

1:49pm Thu 19 Dec 13

mikeperry109 says...

Is this another priority, just like the town centre and youth unemployment?
The man is a joke - all talk and no action, St. Helens deserves better, but when 70% of us do not vote, this is what we get. Extra meetings to top up the expenses, though.
Is this another priority, just like the town centre and youth unemployment? The man is a joke - all talk and no action, St. Helens deserves better, but when 70% of us do not vote, this is what we get. Extra meetings to top up the expenses, though. mikeperry109

2:40pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Bill Bradbury says...

I do not have the gift of prophecy or estactic utterances as the Bible states but as soon as iread this story (In the Reporter first) I thought the "usual suspects" will focus on their hatred of the Council and anyone who was leader (makes a change from marie) and I was not wrong.

The issues connected with Ofsted's "findings" are complex one being the raising of the goalposts each year. and the obsession with League tables and targets plus Government policy in putting their "rotweillers" (Ofsted) into schools to fail so that they can be Academised a current problem I am dealing with at present. At least Dick Turpin had the courtesy to wear a mask!
If results are down, before too long HMI's will be jumping all over them rather than the Task Force in the company. I spent yesterday in the company of one!.
If High schools are to worry just wait for the single exam structure which at least will stop multiple sittings of the same subject to improve their A-C's. I await those results with interest.
As they say bad news is good. No mention from our commentators of the excellent results by our Primaries. Well done Barry!! (if he is to be blamed for the bad, then he can be priased for the good). The stupidity of blaming Cllrs. is that it is not down to them but Governors and the quality of lessons.
I do not have the gift of prophecy or estactic utterances as the Bible states but as soon as iread this story (In the Reporter first) I thought the "usual suspects" will focus on their hatred of the Council and anyone who was leader (makes a change from marie) and I was not wrong. The issues connected with Ofsted's "findings" are complex one being the raising of the goalposts each year. and the obsession with League tables and targets plus Government policy in putting their "rotweillers" (Ofsted) into schools to fail so that they can be Academised a current problem I am dealing with at present. At least Dick Turpin had the courtesy to wear a mask! If results are down, before too long HMI's will be jumping all over them rather than the Task Force in the company. I spent yesterday in the company of one!. If High schools are to worry just wait for the single exam structure which at least will stop multiple sittings of the same subject to improve their A-C's. I await those results with interest. As they say bad news is good. No mention from our commentators of the excellent results by our Primaries. Well done Barry!! (if he is to be blamed for the bad, then he can be priased for the good). The stupidity of blaming Cllrs. is that it is not down to them but Governors and the quality of lessons. Bill Bradbury

3:53pm Thu 19 Dec 13

mikeperry109 says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
I do not have the gift of prophecy or estactic utterances as the Bible states but as soon as iread this story (In the Reporter first) I thought the "usual suspects" will focus on their hatred of the Council and anyone who was leader (makes a change from marie) and I was not wrong.

The issues connected with Ofsted's "findings" are complex one being the raising of the goalposts each year. and the obsession with League tables and targets plus Government policy in putting their "rotweillers" (Ofsted) into schools to fail so that they can be Academised a current problem I am dealing with at present. At least Dick Turpin had the courtesy to wear a mask!
If results are down, before too long HMI's will be jumping all over them rather than the Task Force in the company. I spent yesterday in the company of one!.
If High schools are to worry just wait for the single exam structure which at least will stop multiple sittings of the same subject to improve their A-C's. I await those results with interest.
As they say bad news is good. No mention from our commentators of the excellent results by our Primaries. Well done Barry!! (if he is to be blamed for the bad, then he can be priased for the good). The stupidity of blaming Cllrs. is that it is not down to them but Governors and the quality of lessons.
If you read my post again Bill, I am pointing out that every time there is bad news, he makes it a priority. He is a headline seeker, nothing more. I have not blamed him for St. Helens schools poor performance, we must look elsewhere for those culpable. Whatever your opinions regarding Ofsted, Bill, the schools are judged by the same criteria, and we must address the fact that Liverpool, Wigan and Warrington appear to be performing much better that St. Helens and Knowsley. If a school is judged as "needing Improvement" or failing then it is the responsibility of our elected councillors and officers to intervene. This report cannot be ignored, perhaps a task force will do the job, but pupils have five years in secondary school and we cannot waste any more time.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: I do not have the gift of prophecy or estactic utterances as the Bible states but as soon as iread this story (In the Reporter first) I thought the "usual suspects" will focus on their hatred of the Council and anyone who was leader (makes a change from marie) and I was not wrong. The issues connected with Ofsted's "findings" are complex one being the raising of the goalposts each year. and the obsession with League tables and targets plus Government policy in putting their "rotweillers" (Ofsted) into schools to fail so that they can be Academised a current problem I am dealing with at present. At least Dick Turpin had the courtesy to wear a mask! If results are down, before too long HMI's will be jumping all over them rather than the Task Force in the company. I spent yesterday in the company of one!. If High schools are to worry just wait for the single exam structure which at least will stop multiple sittings of the same subject to improve their A-C's. I await those results with interest. As they say bad news is good. No mention from our commentators of the excellent results by our Primaries. Well done Barry!! (if he is to be blamed for the bad, then he can be priased for the good). The stupidity of blaming Cllrs. is that it is not down to them but Governors and the quality of lessons.[/p][/quote]If you read my post again Bill, I am pointing out that every time there is bad news, he makes it a priority. He is a headline seeker, nothing more. I have not blamed him for St. Helens schools poor performance, we must look elsewhere for those culpable. Whatever your opinions regarding Ofsted, Bill, the schools are judged by the same criteria, and we must address the fact that Liverpool, Wigan and Warrington appear to be performing much better that St. Helens and Knowsley. If a school is judged as "needing Improvement" or failing then it is the responsibility of our elected councillors and officers to intervene. This report cannot be ignored, perhaps a task force will do the job, but pupils have five years in secondary school and we cannot waste any more time. mikeperry109

4:31pm Thu 19 Dec 13

anthonywilson says...

Clearly something is not right as several other secondary schools in the not too distant past such as De La Salle and Rainford High were deemed to be to be good schools and are no longer in this category. Without trying to blame individual Councillors, St Helens Council does have to take some of the blame as it is responsible for education in St Helens and so many elected councillors of all parties are also school governors. Not too long ago the St Helens Star also reported about the poor performance of Broad Oak Primary school too and some of the issues in relation to Newton Academy.
St Helens does have a outstanding sixth form college with Beacon Status so maybe some of the lessons which Carmel College are clearly doing right need to be put into practice, particularly within our local secondary schools. Whilst I know that there are many extremely gifted and brilliant teachers across all our schools in the borough the young people of St Helens deserve better than this. Very much a case of "must try harder and do better.'
Clearly something is not right as several other secondary schools in the not too distant past such as De La Salle and Rainford High were deemed to be to be good schools and are no longer in this category. Without trying to blame individual Councillors, St Helens Council does have to take some of the blame as it is responsible for education in St Helens and so many elected councillors of all parties are also school governors. Not too long ago the St Helens Star also reported about the poor performance of Broad Oak Primary school too and some of the issues in relation to Newton Academy. St Helens does have a outstanding sixth form college with Beacon Status so maybe some of the lessons which Carmel College are clearly doing right need to be put into practice, particularly within our local secondary schools. Whilst I know that there are many extremely gifted and brilliant teachers across all our schools in the borough the young people of St Helens deserve better than this. Very much a case of "must try harder and do better.' anthonywilson

5:42pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Sankey says...

" the reasons are complex"

A euthanism for "let's do nothing pretend we care and then quietly sweep it into the long grass"

And so continues the saga of the public sector and in particular the education industry for the past three decades

I rather think its simple councillors feathering their nests in an ultra safe labour seat (see next reshuffle once Woodward goes) and teachers not doing the job they are paid to do. Nothing will be done not by this self serving bunch anyway.
" the reasons are complex" A euthanism for "let's do nothing pretend we care and then quietly sweep it into the long grass" And so continues the saga of the public sector and in particular the education industry for the past three decades I rather think its simple councillors feathering their nests in an ultra safe labour seat (see next reshuffle once Woodward goes) and teachers not doing the job they are paid to do. Nothing will be done not by this self serving bunch anyway. Sankey

6:16pm Thu 19 Dec 13

barrie timpson says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
I do not have the gift of prophecy or estactic utterances as the Bible states but as soon as iread this story (In the Reporter first) I thought the "usual suspects" will focus on their hatred of the Council and anyone who was leader (makes a change from marie) and I was not wrong.

The issues connected with Ofsted's "findings" are complex one being the raising of the goalposts each year. and the obsession with League tables and targets plus Government policy in putting their "rotweillers" (Ofsted) into schools to fail so that they can be Academised a current problem I am dealing with at present. At least Dick Turpin had the courtesy to wear a mask!
If results are down, before too long HMI's will be jumping all over them rather than the Task Force in the company. I spent yesterday in the company of one!.
If High schools are to worry just wait for the single exam structure which at least will stop multiple sittings of the same subject to improve their A-C's. I await those results with interest.
As they say bad news is good. No mention from our commentators of the excellent results by our Primaries. Well done Barry!! (if he is to be blamed for the bad, then he can be priased for the good). The stupidity of blaming Cllrs. is that it is not down to them but Governors and the quality of lessons.
Sorry Bill , we'll all keep quite in the future. Or perhaps you could prepare a statement for us to type out?
Whatever suits you best really , I hate to be one of the usual subjects.
Anyway I have to go now , it was windy last night and the "weighted bags" from the "resounding success" of the recycling scheme have blown litter all over the estate and there's a tesco chicken pie box stuck in my neighbours conifer.
When I come down from the tree I'll be sure to email The Tories or the African national congress , or perhaps the PLO as it's more than likely their fault that this scheme is an utter disaster , because it could not possibly be that Labour or St Helens council could ever ever ever do or get anything wrong , I mean I'm sure it's a good thing that after 13 years of Blairs "education education education" we've slipped to the bottom of nearly every league table there is.
I do wonder though , if there is any point in voting for Barrie and co in the future , as it seems anything that happens is either out of their hands or beyond their jurisdiction , what do they actually do?!?
Merry Christmas everybody by the way ! xx
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: I do not have the gift of prophecy or estactic utterances as the Bible states but as soon as iread this story (In the Reporter first) I thought the "usual suspects" will focus on their hatred of the Council and anyone who was leader (makes a change from marie) and I was not wrong. The issues connected with Ofsted's "findings" are complex one being the raising of the goalposts each year. and the obsession with League tables and targets plus Government policy in putting their "rotweillers" (Ofsted) into schools to fail so that they can be Academised a current problem I am dealing with at present. At least Dick Turpin had the courtesy to wear a mask! If results are down, before too long HMI's will be jumping all over them rather than the Task Force in the company. I spent yesterday in the company of one!. If High schools are to worry just wait for the single exam structure which at least will stop multiple sittings of the same subject to improve their A-C's. I await those results with interest. As they say bad news is good. No mention from our commentators of the excellent results by our Primaries. Well done Barry!! (if he is to be blamed for the bad, then he can be priased for the good). The stupidity of blaming Cllrs. is that it is not down to them but Governors and the quality of lessons.[/p][/quote]Sorry Bill , we'll all keep quite in the future. Or perhaps you could prepare a statement for us to type out? Whatever suits you best really , I hate to be one of the usual subjects. Anyway I have to go now , it was windy last night and the "weighted bags" from the "resounding success" of the recycling scheme have blown litter all over the estate and there's a tesco chicken pie box stuck in my neighbours conifer. When I come down from the tree I'll be sure to email The Tories or the African national congress , or perhaps the PLO as it's more than likely their fault that this scheme is an utter disaster , because it could not possibly be that Labour or St Helens council could ever ever ever do or get anything wrong , I mean I'm sure it's a good thing that after 13 years of Blairs "education education education" we've slipped to the bottom of nearly every league table there is. I do wonder though , if there is any point in voting for Barrie and co in the future , as it seems anything that happens is either out of their hands or beyond their jurisdiction , what do they actually do?!? Merry Christmas everybody by the way ! xx barrie timpson

6:19pm Thu 19 Dec 13

barrie timpson says...

Mike - you want my answer - I'll tell you.
St Helens especially under new Liebour did not reward hard work - they rewarded get pregnant have baby get house get benefits.
Look at Rainhill High - excellent school excellent results. That's because here we know that we have to get good grades to get a good job to pay good taxes to pay for the the majority of the rest of the borough ;)
Mike - you want my answer - I'll tell you. St Helens especially under new Liebour did not reward hard work - they rewarded get pregnant have baby get house get benefits. Look at Rainhill High - excellent school excellent results. That's because here we know that we have to get good grades to get a good job to pay good taxes to pay for the the majority of the rest of the borough ;) barrie timpson

9:40pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Sankey says...

Today's edition of the St. Helens Star was beyond parody.

A photo of councillor Gomez aspron waving from the driving seat of a recycling wagon. That's commitment not only has he organised the scheme it seems he drives the wagons as well.

The scheme as we all know is a resounding success.

North Korea would I am sure blush at spin such as that. None of the feedback send to the council has been addressed they have no interest whatsoever at anything the public say or think. Recycling is necessary most sensible people recognise that but the application and engagement with the public has been a catastrophe and using taxpayers money to spin in that way they clearly take us for fools.

It's clear the present regime believe they will be voted in whatever happens and massaging the message to the public and doing as they like is the order of the day.
Today's edition of the St. Helens Star was beyond parody. A photo of councillor Gomez aspron waving from the driving seat of a recycling wagon. That's commitment not only has he organised the scheme it seems he drives the wagons as well. The scheme as we all know is a resounding success. North Korea would I am sure blush at spin such as that. None of the feedback send to the council has been addressed they have no interest whatsoever at anything the public say or think. Recycling is necessary most sensible people recognise that but the application and engagement with the public has been a catastrophe and using taxpayers money to spin in that way they clearly take us for fools. It's clear the present regime believe they will be voted in whatever happens and massaging the message to the public and doing as they like is the order of the day. Sankey

11:54pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Bill Bradbury says...

barrie timpson wrote:
Mike - you want my answer - I'll tell you. St Helens especially under new Liebour did not reward hard work - they rewarded get pregnant have baby get house get benefits. Look at Rainhill High - excellent school excellent results. That's because here we know that we have to get good grades to get a good job to pay good taxes to pay for the the majority of the rest of the borough ;)
Hmm! interested you chose that school. Refer to my earlier comments!! With Gove's new exam structure we will see. Remember I am am in contact with teachers across the Authority. Believe what you will.
Barrie you are wandering off topic. Your views on other issues are interesting but have nothing to do with the quality of Teaching and the results (or lack of them) to which the article refers. Go to another comment site.

Barrie thanks for your "complaints" of the season ( I am dyslexic). I hope you and all my "Friends" on this site have a lovely christmas and a healthy New Year plus keep the debates going.

I am mindful of a comment made by Mike some months ago we should all meet in the Turks ( one of my favourite pubs-apart from the Masons at Billinge) to have a few pints-and I write as a life menber of CAMRA.
[quote][p][bold]barrie timpson[/bold] wrote: Mike - you want my answer - I'll tell you. St Helens especially under new Liebour did not reward hard work - they rewarded get pregnant have baby get house get benefits. Look at Rainhill High - excellent school excellent results. That's because here we know that we have to get good grades to get a good job to pay good taxes to pay for the the majority of the rest of the borough ;)[/p][/quote]Hmm! interested you chose that school. Refer to my earlier comments!! With Gove's new exam structure we will see. Remember I am am in contact with teachers across the Authority. Believe what you will. Barrie you are wandering off topic. Your views on other issues are interesting but have nothing to do with the quality of Teaching and the results (or lack of them) to which the article refers. Go to another comment site. Barrie thanks for your "complaints" of the season ( I am dyslexic). I hope you and all my "Friends" on this site have a lovely christmas and a healthy New Year plus keep the debates going. I am mindful of a comment made by Mike some months ago we should all meet in the Turks ( one of my favourite pubs-apart from the Masons at Billinge) to have a few pints-and I write as a life menber of CAMRA. Bill Bradbury

8:59am Fri 20 Dec 13

pudding pie says...

Interesting comnent about one of the few good schools maybe its students are getting good results as they are not playing by the rules. I was horrified last week to go a friends and her daughter was doing a gcse controlled assessment. These assessments are supposed to be done at school supervised by teacher's to ensure all the childs work. My sons school follows the rules why cant this school? Carmel does well as it is selective and so only has the best pupils. All the other schools in St Helens are comprehensive and so have chikdren of all abilities and backgrounds.
Interesting comnent about one of the few good schools maybe its students are getting good results as they are not playing by the rules. I was horrified last week to go a friends and her daughter was doing a gcse controlled assessment. These assessments are supposed to be done at school supervised by teacher's to ensure all the childs work. My sons school follows the rules why cant this school? Carmel does well as it is selective and so only has the best pupils. All the other schools in St Helens are comprehensive and so have chikdren of all abilities and backgrounds. pudding pie

10:13am Fri 20 Dec 13

mikeperry109 says...

pudding pie wrote:
Interesting comnent about one of the few good schools maybe its students are getting good results as they are not playing by the rules. I was horrified last week to go a friends and her daughter was doing a gcse controlled assessment. These assessments are supposed to be done at school supervised by teacher's to ensure all the childs work. My sons school follows the rules why cant this school? Carmel does well as it is selective and so only has the best pupils. All the other schools in St Helens are comprehensive and so have chikdren of all abilities and backgrounds.
You are right in your observations pudding pie. Coursework done at home was a way of "raising standards" by "improving" GCSE grades. Hence we had 100% pass rates - a complete nonsense. I would not allow politicians anywhere near health and education - it is all about short term gain for them, not long term improvement. The newish Ofsted chief Sir Michael Wilshaw is the best thing that has happened to the service since it was set up in the '90s. He took a poorly performing school in one of the most deprived areas of London and turned it into one of the best - sending over 10 students to Oxbridge each year and oversubscribed for admissions by 200 pupils a year. Ofsted are now exposing mediocrity, particularly in school management, and it is there that we need to look more closely. If teachers are deemed incompetent, the questions must be asked why they were appointed in the first place and what has been done to help them to improve.
[quote][p][bold]pudding pie[/bold] wrote: Interesting comnent about one of the few good schools maybe its students are getting good results as they are not playing by the rules. I was horrified last week to go a friends and her daughter was doing a gcse controlled assessment. These assessments are supposed to be done at school supervised by teacher's to ensure all the childs work. My sons school follows the rules why cant this school? Carmel does well as it is selective and so only has the best pupils. All the other schools in St Helens are comprehensive and so have chikdren of all abilities and backgrounds.[/p][/quote]You are right in your observations pudding pie. Coursework done at home was a way of "raising standards" by "improving" GCSE grades. Hence we had 100% pass rates - a complete nonsense. I would not allow politicians anywhere near health and education - it is all about short term gain for them, not long term improvement. The newish Ofsted chief Sir Michael Wilshaw is the best thing that has happened to the service since it was set up in the '90s. He took a poorly performing school in one of the most deprived areas of London and turned it into one of the best - sending over 10 students to Oxbridge each year and oversubscribed for admissions by 200 pupils a year. Ofsted are now exposing mediocrity, particularly in school management, and it is there that we need to look more closely. If teachers are deemed incompetent, the questions must be asked why they were appointed in the first place and what has been done to help them to improve. mikeperry109

10:23am Fri 20 Dec 13

mikeperry109 says...

Sankey wrote:
Today's edition of the St. Helens Star was beyond parody.

A photo of councillor Gomez aspron waving from the driving seat of a recycling wagon. That's commitment not only has he organised the scheme it seems he drives the wagons as well.

The scheme as we all know is a resounding success.

North Korea would I am sure blush at spin such as that. None of the feedback send to the council has been addressed they have no interest whatsoever at anything the public say or think. Recycling is necessary most sensible people recognise that but the application and engagement with the public has been a catastrophe and using taxpayers money to spin in that way they clearly take us for fools.

It's clear the present regime believe they will be voted in whatever happens and massaging the message to the public and doing as they like is the order of the day.
Sankey, you could not believe it if it was not there in front of you. Apart from the information regarding changes to collection dates, which could have been stuck on our wheelie bins, it is a piece of propoganda that is backed up by dodgy figures. There is in all probability no more being recycled and the only people to gain from this are the proprietors of the Star - how much did this piece of self-congratulation cost the council tax payer?
[quote][p][bold]Sankey[/bold] wrote: Today's edition of the St. Helens Star was beyond parody. A photo of councillor Gomez aspron waving from the driving seat of a recycling wagon. That's commitment not only has he organised the scheme it seems he drives the wagons as well. The scheme as we all know is a resounding success. North Korea would I am sure blush at spin such as that. None of the feedback send to the council has been addressed they have no interest whatsoever at anything the public say or think. Recycling is necessary most sensible people recognise that but the application and engagement with the public has been a catastrophe and using taxpayers money to spin in that way they clearly take us for fools. It's clear the present regime believe they will be voted in whatever happens and massaging the message to the public and doing as they like is the order of the day.[/p][/quote]Sankey, you could not believe it if it was not there in front of you. Apart from the information regarding changes to collection dates, which could have been stuck on our wheelie bins, it is a piece of propoganda that is backed up by dodgy figures. There is in all probability no more being recycled and the only people to gain from this are the proprietors of the Star - how much did this piece of self-congratulation cost the council tax payer? mikeperry109

11:59am Fri 20 Dec 13

jumperr says...

The priority should be with the the teachers,the bullying that goes on is probably one of the reasons why pupils cannot study, what goes on with these teacher training days,are they all on trial to see if they can do the job,he should concentrate on the priorities that the people he represents vote for and let the schools sort the results out .Get the MPs involved good money for nothing, none of the authorities are proactive,all them who appear on the council tax bill every yr.
The priority should be with the the teachers,the bullying that goes on is probably one of the reasons why pupils cannot study, what goes on with these teacher training days,are they all on trial to see if they can do the job,he should concentrate on the priorities that the people he represents vote for and let the schools sort the results out .Get the MPs involved good money for nothing, none of the authorities are proactive,all them who appear on the council tax bill every yr. jumperr

1:13pm Fri 20 Dec 13

barrie timpson says...

It was a tongue in cheek comment though that's why I put the wink at the end.

I would just like to reiterate my best wishes to everybody on here for Christmas and the New Year - all the best boys xxx
It was a tongue in cheek comment though that's why I put the wink at the end. I would just like to reiterate my best wishes to everybody on here for Christmas and the New Year - all the best boys xxx barrie timpson

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