Fresh wave of wheelie bin fires

St Helens Star: Fresh wave of wheelie bin fires Fresh wave of wheelie bin fires

ARSONISTS carried out a wave of wheelie bin fires in the early hours leading to firefighters being called out six times in the space of three hours.

The first incident was in the early hours of Thursday, December 12, when two bins were set on fire in an alley on Pigot Street in Newtown. It is believed that the alleyway was unlocked.

Kitchener Street was the next target less than ten minutes later when yobs set fire to a bin full of rubbish on the pavement.

Crews from Eccleston and St Helens were then called to a fire at 3.40am on Windsor Road next to St Teresa’s Parish Centre. The building was not damaged.

The next fire was close to an alleygate on Argyle Street just before 4.50am. A 38-year-old man suffered minor injuries and was assessed by paramedics.

Minutes later firefighters had to tackle another bin fire on Argyle Street.

Then at 5.09am they were called to deal with another arson attack on Chapel Street.

St Helens fire chief Chris Case said: “We urge people not to leave wheelie bins out. They should be stored away from buildings and ideally behind locked gates. Bins should be brought back in as soon as rubbish has been collected.

“Wheelie bin fires can spread to properties rapidly, causing a danger to people in their homes.

“Attending deliberate wheelie bin fires can prevent a fire appliance being available to attend emergencies.”

Detective Sergeant John Black added: "Setting fire to bins is extremely dangerous as it could cause serious injury to those people who do it and to the wider community.

"Officers have launched an operation aimed to identify those responsible by increasing patrols in the area, working closely with Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service and speaking to the local community. We are determined to bring those responsible to justice.

"Merseyside Police are committed to making our communities safer and would urge anyone with information to contact police on the 101 number or on Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555 111.”

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12:54pm Wed 18 Dec 13

kjd161 says...

St Helens fire chief says don't leave them out. St Helens council says they have to be left out by 06.30hrs. Help. My head's exploding.
St Helens fire chief says don't leave them out. St Helens council says they have to be left out by 06.30hrs. Help. My head's exploding. kjd161

4:52pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mummy1 says...

We have no ally gates, we leave the house ( FOR WORK ) at 8.15 & return at 4.30pm, explain how I bring in my bin if I am not there?
We have no ally gates, we leave the house ( FOR WORK ) at 8.15 & return at 4.30pm, explain how I bring in my bin if I am not there? mummy1

4:58pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Keva68 says...

They need to speak to the council as people need to leave the bins and recycling containers out all night as council advice says out by 0630.
They need to speak to the council as people need to leave the bins and recycling containers out all night as council advice says out by 0630. Keva68

6:32pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Saintinexile says...

There are too many people with too little to do in St Helens. The result......too much arson about
There are too many people with too little to do in St Helens. The result......too much arson about Saintinexile

9:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

norm says...

... and another b*mmer - workers who get up at 4 am for early shifts wanting to get in bed early ... but bins only being emptied 9.30 pm onwards in some areas!
... and another b*mmer - workers who get up at 4 am for early shifts wanting to get in bed early ... but bins only being emptied 9.30 pm onwards in some areas! norm

12:59pm Sat 21 Dec 13

saintsfan says...

Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.
Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before. saintsfan

5:52pm Sat 21 Dec 13

norm says...

Please explain how people who work nights are able to 'get off their backsides' and put a bin out for 6.30 am when they are only getting in from work at around 7 or 8 am or even later?
Please explain how people who work nights are able to 'get off their backsides' and put a bin out for 6.30 am when they are only getting in from work at around 7 or 8 am or even later? norm

9:23pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Keva68 says...

saintsfan wrote:
Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.
Right so we should all get up at 0600 now on because it suits the council ,and what about night shift workers who NEED to put them out the night before.
You carry on jumping through hoops for the council ,i for one wont get up on my days off at 0600 for the council.
The council have introduced this ridiculous scheme and should come up with a solution or be answerable to the residents for the arson taking place.
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan[/bold] wrote: Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.[/p][/quote]Right so we should all get up at 0600 now on because it suits the council ,and what about night shift workers who NEED to put them out the night before. You carry on jumping through hoops for the council ,i for one wont get up on my days off at 0600 for the council. The council have introduced this ridiculous scheme and should come up with a solution or be answerable to the residents for the arson taking place. Keva68

9:22am Sun 22 Dec 13

smith&weston says...

saintsfan wrote:
Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.
Are you for real ? So everyone must now be up at 6am on bin emptying day, a service they are paying heavily for via their council tax, just to defeat a few of the Boroughs morons.
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan[/bold] wrote: Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.[/p][/quote]Are you for real ? So everyone must now be up at 6am on bin emptying day, a service they are paying heavily for via their council tax, just to defeat a few of the Boroughs morons. smith&weston

12:20pm Sun 22 Dec 13

jumperr says...

The idea of paying for a service is for the service providers to do the job not the payers, the councillors don't seem to be up the promises they give us.
The idea of paying for a service is for the service providers to do the job not the payers, the councillors don't seem to be up the promises they give us. jumperr

11:10pm Sun 22 Dec 13

norm says...

.... a good idea would be for the council to install, on every street corner, sirens to rouse us all at 6 am on bin day - NOT!! Saintsfan has clearly got nothing better to do with their time. A better idea would be for the powers that be to come down heavily on culprits caught setting fires. Arson used to be a VERY serious crime carrying severe penalties.
.... a good idea would be for the council to install, on every street corner, sirens to rouse us all at 6 am on bin day - NOT!! Saintsfan has clearly got nothing better to do with their time. A better idea would be for the powers that be to come down heavily on culprits caught setting fires. Arson used to be a VERY serious crime carrying severe penalties. norm

12:17pm Mon 23 Dec 13

jumperr says...

The people who are paying for all this and other bad behaviour is the people who play by the rules,and what gets done tohelp those people is bugger all.
The people who are paying for all this and other bad behaviour is the people who play by the rules,and what gets done tohelp those people is bugger all. jumperr

9:33pm Mon 23 Dec 13

saintsfan says...

Keva68 wrote:
saintsfan wrote:
Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.
Right so we should all get up at 0600 now on because it suits the council ,and what about night shift workers who NEED to put them out the night before.
You carry on jumping through hoops for the council ,i for one wont get up on my days off at 0600 for the council.
The council have introduced this ridiculous scheme and should come up with a solution or be answerable to the residents for the arson taking place.
You'll feel differently if your property is set on fire because of arson to a wheelie bin. I'm at least looking after my neighbours by ensuring those who are irresponsible don't risk my responsible neighbours' properties, moving the left out wheelie bins (and two full ones have now been sitting out for over a week and there is still a week to go until collection day) to areas where homes will not be put at risk.
[quote][p][bold]Keva68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintsfan[/bold] wrote: Living where I do, there have been three wheelie bin fires on my street since the change over to fortnightly collections. I called the fire service to one of them myself, at 2.30am, yet still people are leaving the bins out overnight. Thankfully no cars were parked near the bins when they were on fire otherwise there could have been reports of an explosion. The council say leave the bins out before 6.30am. I get up at 6.00am and put out my wheelie bin, ready for 6.30. Most people are taking the lazy option and not getting up earlier to put out their bin preferring instead to risk it being set alight and therefore risk the properties and possibly lives of others in the process. Get your backsides out of bed that bit earlier and put your bin out before 6.30am, NOT the night before.[/p][/quote]Right so we should all get up at 0600 now on because it suits the council ,and what about night shift workers who NEED to put them out the night before. You carry on jumping through hoops for the council ,i for one wont get up on my days off at 0600 for the council. The council have introduced this ridiculous scheme and should come up with a solution or be answerable to the residents for the arson taking place.[/p][/quote]You'll feel differently if your property is set on fire because of arson to a wheelie bin. I'm at least looking after my neighbours by ensuring those who are irresponsible don't risk my responsible neighbours' properties, moving the left out wheelie bins (and two full ones have now been sitting out for over a week and there is still a week to go until collection day) to areas where homes will not be put at risk. saintsfan

9:36pm Mon 23 Dec 13

saintsfan says...

norm wrote:
.... a good idea would be for the council to install, on every street corner, sirens to rouse us all at 6 am on bin day - NOT!! Saintsfan has clearly got nothing better to do with their time. A better idea would be for the powers that be to come down heavily on culprits caught setting fires. Arson used to be a VERY serious crime carrying severe penalties.
Actually, I work, and every Friday I sacrifice half an hour's sleep to put the bin and/or the recycling out before 6.30am. The Council is not obliged by law to collect your rubbish at all and that may be worth remembering for those whining about having to get their backsides out of bed a bit earlier. If the Council charged you for every wheelie bin lost to arson due to being left out overnight then I'm sure you'd be up before 6.00 without fail!
[quote][p][bold]norm[/bold] wrote: .... a good idea would be for the council to install, on every street corner, sirens to rouse us all at 6 am on bin day - NOT!! Saintsfan has clearly got nothing better to do with their time. A better idea would be for the powers that be to come down heavily on culprits caught setting fires. Arson used to be a VERY serious crime carrying severe penalties.[/p][/quote]Actually, I work, and every Friday I sacrifice half an hour's sleep to put the bin and/or the recycling out before 6.30am. The Council is not obliged by law to collect your rubbish at all and that may be worth remembering for those whining about having to get their backsides out of bed a bit earlier. If the Council charged you for every wheelie bin lost to arson due to being left out overnight then I'm sure you'd be up before 6.00 without fail! saintsfan

10:48pm Mon 23 Dec 13

norm says...

Excuse me, sir or madam! What are we paying our council tax for? And have you not understood several comments above - it is not practical and is impossible for some people to put their bins out by 6.30 am or take them in straight away after being emptied due to work commitments. Please don't assume or imply that people are lazy because they put their bins out the night before collection, etc. The real problem is the low-life that set them on fire, not law abiding, council tax-paying residents.
Excuse me, sir or madam! What are we paying our council tax for? And have you not understood several comments above - it is not practical and is impossible for some people to put their bins out by 6.30 am or take them in straight away after being emptied due to work commitments. Please don't assume or imply that people are lazy because they put their bins out the night before collection, etc. The real problem is the low-life that set them on fire, not law abiding, council tax-paying residents. norm

11:08pm Mon 23 Dec 13

norm says...

... have just read today on this site about a wheelie bin arsonist being handed what amounts to just a slap on the wrist, suppose that's going to frighten the life out of him. Justice?
... have just read today on this site about a wheelie bin arsonist being handed what amounts to just a slap on the wrist, suppose that's going to frighten the life out of him. Justice? norm

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