Former Plaza where Beatles played set to become new cafe bar

St Helens Star: The old Plaza, whihc staged early Beatles gigs, is to a house a new bar The old Plaza, whihc staged early Beatles gigs, is to a house a new bar

A FORMER nightspot where the Beatles famously once played could be resurrected as a new cafe bar.

The Oxford Building on Duke Street underwent a major overhaul in its centenary year and has been divided to house the Larkin’s restaurant and other small businesses.

Part of the ground floor of the landmark building – which includes the spot where some of The Beatles’ first gigs drew legions of fans – has remained unoccupied.

Now the Star has learned that the section of the venue, which opened as a cinema in 1912 and has had numerous guises – including a ballroom, nightclub and pub – is in line from development by local entrepreneurs.

The intention is turn the space – which hosted a number of concerts by the Fab Four between 1962 and 1963 when it was the Plaza – into a cafe bar.

It is expected to be called Cinema Bar.

Plans for the development have been submitted to St Helens Council. The Oxford Building was designed in a Georgian style by architect William Pearson.

After falling into disrepair when the Orange House pub closed about eight years ago, there were fears a venue with significant historical links to St Helens entertainment and social scene could be lost.

According to researchers, the Beatles played the first of five gigs at the Plaza on June 25, 1962.

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11:23am Thu 16 May 13

Bill Bradbury says...

I stand corrected but as my wife lived in Oxford St., in my courting days I recall one notice advertising them as "the Silver Beatles" just before they became famous. Is there anyone who can correct me or confirm?
Glad to see the building is to be used. Hope it's a success.
I stand corrected but as my wife lived in Oxford St., in my courting days I recall one notice advertising them as "the Silver Beatles" just before they became famous. Is there anyone who can correct me or confirm? Glad to see the building is to be used. Hope it's a success. Bill Bradbury
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3:05pm Thu 16 May 13

mikeperry109 says...

Just what we need, Bill - another "Cafe bar". We used to make things in St. Helens and export them, now we employ people on minimum wages in bars and takeaways! No wonder we are one of the health blackspots in the UK. Is this part of Guneawald's vision for St. Helens regeneration.
Just what we need, Bill - another "Cafe bar". We used to make things in St. Helens and export them, now we employ people on minimum wages in bars and takeaways! No wonder we are one of the health blackspots in the UK. Is this part of Guneawald's vision for St. Helens regeneration. mikeperry109
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5:07pm Thu 16 May 13

smith&weston says...

What's with St Helen's sudden need for coffee every few hundred yards ? Just like the Chinese buffet disease that struck the town over the last few years.
What's with St Helen's sudden need for coffee every few hundred yards ? Just like the Chinese buffet disease that struck the town over the last few years. smith&weston
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6:46pm Thu 16 May 13

jumper says...

Their was are still is one opposite,town needs a good replan
Their was are still is one opposite,town needs a good replan jumper
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12:54am Fri 17 May 13

Bill Bradbury says...

mikeperry109 wrote:
Just what we need, Bill - another "Cafe bar". We used to make things in St. Helens and export them, now we employ people on minimum wages in bars and takeaways! No wonder we are one of the health blackspots in the UK. Is this part of Guneawald's vision for St. Helens regeneration.
Point taken but I hope not. Have faith!! Will never out perform the Turks. Asked for you -had our union meeting thereon Thursday.
As for the minimum wage economy the Tories are doing a good job on this and why they want out of Europe for also goes the European workers protection laws especially over H&S.
The way Gove is going teachers will be soon on minimum wage and I am not joking!

With a total right wing press the public are being conned again. Why the adverse report on HS2 today?
Too many marginal seats up the Berkshire valley total Toryland. Running scared of UKIP out to save their miserable skins.
[quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: Just what we need, Bill - another "Cafe bar". We used to make things in St. Helens and export them, now we employ people on minimum wages in bars and takeaways! No wonder we are one of the health blackspots in the UK. Is this part of Guneawald's vision for St. Helens regeneration.[/p][/quote]Point taken but I hope not. Have faith!! Will never out perform the Turks. Asked for you -had our union meeting thereon Thursday. As for the minimum wage economy the Tories are doing a good job on this and why they want out of Europe for also goes the European workers protection laws especially over H&S. The way Gove is going teachers will be soon on minimum wage and I am not joking! With a total right wing press the public are being conned again. Why the adverse report on HS2 today? Too many marginal seats up the Berkshire valley total Toryland. Running scared of UKIP out to save their miserable skins. Bill Bradbury
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12:07pm Fri 17 May 13

jumper says...

Hs2money should be used to collect trade from North America to Europe quick before we miss out west coast east coast,as they have said theirselves (govt) more trade with Europe is a priority.London to up here any quicker is pointless.
Hs2money should be used to collect trade from North America to Europe quick before we miss out west coast east coast,as they have said theirselves (govt) more trade with Europe is a priority.London to up here any quicker is pointless. jumper
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12:18pm Fri 17 May 13

jumper says...

I was outside when they played their,along with a lot more folk,ahh the 60sand 70s.Could catch a ball then?!
I was outside when they played their,along with a lot more folk,ahh the 60sand 70s.Could catch a ball then?! jumper
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2:03pm Fri 17 May 13

Sumner says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
I stand corrected but as my wife lived in Oxford St., in my courting days I recall one notice advertising them as "the Silver Beatles" just before they became famous. Is there anyone who can correct me or confirm?
Glad to see the building is to be used. Hope it's a success.
Hello Bill,
Being an avid fan of the Beatles I can tell you yes they were known as the Silver Beatles during a tour with Helen Shapiro (I think) before becoming famous. They were also known as Johnny and The Moondogs
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: I stand corrected but as my wife lived in Oxford St., in my courting days I recall one notice advertising them as "the Silver Beatles" just before they became famous. Is there anyone who can correct me or confirm? Glad to see the building is to be used. Hope it's a success.[/p][/quote]Hello Bill, Being an avid fan of the Beatles I can tell you yes they were known as the Silver Beatles during a tour with Helen Shapiro (I think) before becoming famous. They were also known as Johnny and The Moondogs Sumner
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5:48pm Fri 17 May 13

PeterPerkins says...

Bill Bradbury wrote:
mikeperry109 wrote:
Just what we need, Bill - another "Cafe bar". We used to make things in St. Helens and export them, now we employ people on minimum wages in bars and takeaways! No wonder we are one of the health blackspots in the UK. Is this part of Guneawald's vision for St. Helens regeneration.
Point taken but I hope not. Have faith!! Will never out perform the Turks. Asked for you -had our union meeting thereon Thursday.
As for the minimum wage economy the Tories are doing a good job on this and why they want out of Europe for also goes the European workers protection laws especially over H&S.
The way Gove is going teachers will be soon on minimum wage and I am not joking!

With a total right wing press the public are being conned again. Why the adverse report on HS2 today?
Too many marginal seats up the Berkshire valley total Toryland. Running scared of UKIP out to save their miserable skins.
Have faith in what Bill? The gorger backstabbing leader of a council that has let the town rot over the past years? I'll remain sceptical. After all I live in Rainhill , were municipal facilities don't exist , we are a cash cow for Par and Thatto heath.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Bradbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeperry109[/bold] wrote: Just what we need, Bill - another "Cafe bar". We used to make things in St. Helens and export them, now we employ people on minimum wages in bars and takeaways! No wonder we are one of the health blackspots in the UK. Is this part of Guneawald's vision for St. Helens regeneration.[/p][/quote]Point taken but I hope not. Have faith!! Will never out perform the Turks. Asked for you -had our union meeting thereon Thursday. As for the minimum wage economy the Tories are doing a good job on this and why they want out of Europe for also goes the European workers protection laws especially over H&S. The way Gove is going teachers will be soon on minimum wage and I am not joking! With a total right wing press the public are being conned again. Why the adverse report on HS2 today? Too many marginal seats up the Berkshire valley total Toryland. Running scared of UKIP out to save their miserable skins.[/p][/quote]Have faith in what Bill? The gorger backstabbing leader of a council that has let the town rot over the past years? I'll remain sceptical. After all I live in Rainhill , were municipal facilities don't exist , we are a cash cow for Par and Thatto heath. PeterPerkins
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9:18am Sat 18 May 13

Bill Bradbury says...

Peter "Now then, now then" as the infamous Saville used to say, that claim I have heard also from the residents of Billinge and Rainford, and especially friends in Newton and Earlstown!!

The trouble is as a Parish Cllr. when you try to get facilities at the request of many residents you get an anonymous letter (I suspect Tory mischief) saying we should not be spending any money but reduce the precept which we have held for at least 6 years. We are lucky in Billinge as we have many good community activists who are not politicians.

You can't win as Barry will find out in due course. Cllrs have broad backs with many knives stuck in them!!??
Peter "Now then, now then" as the infamous Saville used to say, that claim I have heard also from the residents of Billinge and Rainford, and especially friends in Newton and Earlstown!! The trouble is as a Parish Cllr. when you try to get facilities at the request of many residents you get an anonymous letter (I suspect Tory mischief) saying we should not be spending any money but reduce the precept which we have held for at least 6 years. We are lucky in Billinge as we have many good community activists who are not politicians. You can't win as Barry will find out in due course. Cllrs have broad backs with many knives stuck in them!!?? Bill Bradbury
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6:29pm Sat 18 May 13

jumper says...

Some of the councillors should look at what the wards are like start with west park
Some of the councillors should look at what the wards are like start with west park jumper
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8:00pm Tue 21 May 13

frankly says...

Cilla was there as well, but not a lorra lorra times
Cilla was there as well, but not a lorra lorra times frankly
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